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VS2005 running my DC

Source: microsoft.public.virtualserver
Sent: 08/25/2009
From: "Justin" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

So I decided to virtualize my domain controller. I thought VS2005 was a
LOCAL service and that it would be ok to boot the host machine with no DC
available then bring the DC online.

I thought wrong.

When I reboot the machine, I got in, ok. Then the virtual server service
starts, ok. Then I go to run the VS admin site, CRASH!!!! I get either:

1. No response
2. CGI error
3. Login not allowed

From what I can tell the website is using Domain Authentication. I then
have to uninstall VS2005 then reinstall VS2005 then reimport my DC VM and
I'm back up and running. Until I reboot then BAM.

I would really like for this machine to be apart of the domain. Is there
anything I can do like login LOCALLY then install VS2005? Will that force
it to not use domain auth?

Is there any other recommend way of virtualizing a DC with hardware that is
apart of the domain? Aside from having a second DC. The ultimate goal is
to use 2008 R2 and do this via HV and I only have one machine that supports
that so I have to keep it to one machine for now.

Thanks for any advice!

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Re: VS2005 running my DC

Sent: 08/25/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:18:07 -0700, "Justin" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:

If your host server is not part of the domain, this should not be an
issue. But, you can't have a computer (i.e. host server) on the
domain, before there's a domain controller.
Your only options are as you've listed above: host server not on
domain or 2nd DC.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/

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>So I decided to virtualize my domain controller. I thought VS2005 was a
>LOCAL service and that it would be ok to boot the host machine with no DC
>available then bring the DC online.
>
>I thought wrong.
>
>When I reboot the machine, I got in, ok. Then the virtual server service
>starts, ok. Then I go to run the VS admin site, CRASH!!!! I get either:
>
>1. No response
>2. CGI error
>3. Login not allowed
>
>From what I can tell the website is using Domain Authentication. I then
>have to uninstall VS2005 then reinstall VS2005 then reimport my DC VM and
>I'm back up and running. Until I reboot then BAM.
>
>I would really like for this machine to be apart of the domain. Is there
>anything I can do like login LOCALLY then install VS2005? Will that force
>it to not use domain auth?
>
>Is there any other recommend way of virtualizing a DC with hardware that is
>apart of the domain? Aside from having a second DC. The ultimate goal is
>to use 2008 R2 and do this via HV and I only have one machine that supports
>that so I have to keep it to one machine for now.
>
>Thanks for any advice!

Re: VS2005 running my DC

Sent: 08/27/2009
From: "Justin" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

So, logging in locally then installing VS2005 wont work either? VS2005 must
use domain authentication? It's can't be used in a non domain situation?
That doesn't make much sense.

The only problem I'm running into is the VS2005 admin site fails to run with
the DC down. As well as auto-starting the VM also requires domain auth.

There is no way to keep VS2005 off the domain credentials?

"Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

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> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:18:07 -0700, "Justin" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>So I decided to virtualize my domain controller. I thought VS2005 was a
>>LOCAL service and that it would be ok to boot the host machine with no DC
>>available then bring the DC online.
>>
>>I thought wrong.
>>
>>When I reboot the machine, I got in, ok. Then the virtual server service
>>starts, ok. Then I go to run the VS admin site, CRASH!!!! I get either:
>>
>>1. No response
>>2. CGI error
>>3. Login not allowed
>>
>>From what I can tell the website is using Domain Authentication. I then
>>have to uninstall VS2005 then reinstall VS2005 then reimport my DC VM and
>>I'm back up and running. Until I reboot then BAM.
>>
>>I would really like for this machine to be apart of the domain. Is there
>>anything I can do like login LOCALLY then install VS2005? Will that force
>>it to not use domain auth?
>>
>>Is there any other recommend way of virtualizing a DC with hardware that
>>is
>>apart of the domain? Aside from having a second DC. The ultimate goal is
>>to use 2008 R2 and do this via HV and I only have one machine that
>>supports
>>that so I have to keep it to one machine for now.
>>
>>Thanks for any advice!
>
> If your host server is not part of the domain, this should not be an
> issue. But, you can't have a computer (i.e. host server) on the
> domain, before there's a domain controller.
> Your only options are as you've listed above: host server not on
> domain or 2nd DC.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/

Re: VS2005 running my DC

Sent: 08/27/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:14:42 -0700, "Justin" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Sure, if the host isn't part of the domain, the Virtual Server won't
be either.

It might work logging locally, but you're still working in an
environment that is not recommended by MS (single DC in a VM on a
domain joined host).
I've never tried this combo.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/

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>So, logging in locally then installing VS2005 wont work either? VS2005 must
>use domain authentication? It's can't be used in a non domain situation?
>That doesn't make much sense.
>
>The only problem I'm running into is the VS2005 admin site fails to run with
>the DC down. As well as auto-starting the VM also requires domain auth.
>
>There is no way to keep VS2005 off the domain credentials?

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