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Sent: 12/01/2008
From: "Jeff Boyce" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:I tried searching this newsgroup, Google, and MS ... didn't find info ...
I have Virtual PC installed on a host WinXP (SP2) OS, and another Windows XP
(SP2) OS installed as a virtual machine.
According to what I found, Windows XP (SP?2) can be used as a non-production
host OS for an installation of Virtual Server 2005 R2. After installing the
IIS component(s) in the virtual WinXP, I was able to install the Virtual
Server 2005 R2 "app".
When I use the web-based interface, it claims the Virtual Server service
starts, then shuts down. When I tried using the Admin tools on the virtual
WinXP, and tried manually starting the Virtual Server service, it stars,
then shuts down. From what I'm seeing on the web-interface for Virtual
Server, that service MUST be running.
Any hints?
(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against doing,
but ...)
Regards
Jeff Boyce
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Sent: 12/01/2008
From: "Jeff Boyce" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Thanks, Bob, Bo.
I'm actually trying to get an instance of Win Server 2003 (or later) up so I
can install the SQL-Server 2005 training materials. The book calls for
Windows Server 2003 to be installed as the ?quasi-host for the SQL-Server
2005 instance and materials, but I'm unable to lay my hands on a spare
machine to put WinServer on so I thought I'd load WinServer inside a virtual
space.
Is it reasonable to:
1) install Virtual Server 2005 R2 on a day-in/day-out desktop PC with
WinXP Pro/SP2
2) install WinServer 2003 (or ?later) within Virtual Server 2005
Thanks again!
Regards
Jeff Boyce
"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
> >(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against
> >doing,
>>but ...)
>
> If you're trying to run Virtual Server in a VPC guest, yes, that's a
> no-no, it wont work.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:31:38 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>I tried searching this newsgroup, Google, and MS ... didn't find info ...
>>
>>I have Virtual PC installed on a host WinXP (SP2) OS, and another Windows
>>XP
>>(SP2) OS installed as a virtual machine.
>>
>>According to what I found, Windows XP (SP?2) can be used as a
>>non-production
>>host OS for an installation of Virtual Server 2005 R2. After installing
>>the
>>IIS component(s) in the virtual WinXP, I was able to install the Virtual
>>Server 2005 R2 "app".
>>
>>When I use the web-based interface, it claims the Virtual Server service
>>starts, then shuts down. When I tried using the Admin tools on the
>>virtual
>>WinXP, and tried manually starting the Virtual Server service, it stars,
>>then shuts down. From what I'm seeing on the web-interface for Virtual
>>Server, that service MUST be running.
>>
>>Any hints?
>>
>>(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against doing,
>>but ...)
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Jeff Boyce
>>
Sent: 12/01/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:>(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against doing,
If you're trying to run Virtual Server in a VPC guest, yes, that's a
no-no, it wont work.
--
Bob Comer
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:31:38 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
Show quoted text
>but ...)
>I tried searching this newsgroup, Google, and MS ... didn't find info ...
>
>I have Virtual PC installed on a host WinXP (SP2) OS, and another Windows XP
>(SP2) OS installed as a virtual machine.
>
>According to what I found, Windows XP (SP?2) can be used as a non-production
>host OS for an installation of Virtual Server 2005 R2. After installing the
>IIS component(s) in the virtual WinXP, I was able to install the Virtual
>Server 2005 R2 "app".
>
>When I use the web-based interface, it claims the Virtual Server service
>starts, then shuts down. When I tried using the Admin tools on the virtual
>WinXP, and tried manually starting the Virtual Server service, it stars,
>then shuts down. From what I'm seeing on the web-interface for Virtual
>Server, that service MUST be running.
>
>Any hints?
>
>(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against doing,
>but ...)
>
>Regards
>
>Jeff Boyce
>
Sent: 12/01/2008
From: "Jeff Boyce" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Bob
I may have mis-spoke ... the training materials said I needed Windows Server
2003 installed, and I thought that I could only install a server in a
Virtual Server. You're saying I can install Win Server 2003 in VPC?!
Cool!
Jeff
"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
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>> 1) install Virtual Server 2005 R2 on a day-in/day-out desktop PC with
>>WinXP Pro/SP2
>> 2) install WinServer 2003 (or ?later) within Virtual Server 2005
>
> Sure, that would work fine, but since it's for training and not
> production, why not just install Win2003 in a VPC VM directly.
>
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:23:47 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Bob, Bo.
>>
>>I'm actually trying to get an instance of Win Server 2003 (or later) up so
>>I
>>can install the SQL-Server 2005 training materials. The book calls for
>>Windows Server 2003 to be installed as the ?quasi-host for the SQL-Server
>>2005 instance and materials, but I'm unable to lay my hands on a spare
>>machine to put WinServer on so I thought I'd load WinServer inside a
>>virtual
>>space.
>>
>>Is it reasonable to:
>> 1) install Virtual Server 2005 R2 on a day-in/day-out desktop PC with
>>WinXP Pro/SP2
>> 2) install WinServer 2003 (or ?later) within Virtual Server 2005
>>
>>Thanks again!
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Jeff Boyce
>>
>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> >(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against
>>> >doing,
>>>>but ...)
>>>
>>> If you're trying to run Virtual Server in a VPC guest, yes, that's a
>>> no-no, it wont work.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:31:38 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
>>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I tried searching this newsgroup, Google, and MS ... didn't find info
>>>>...
>>>>
>>>>I have Virtual PC installed on a host WinXP (SP2) OS, and another
>>>>Windows
>>>>XP
>>>>(SP2) OS installed as a virtual machine.
>>>>
>>>>According to what I found, Windows XP (SP?2) can be used as a
>>>>non-production
>>>>host OS for an installation of Virtual Server 2005 R2. After installing
>>>>the
>>>>IIS component(s) in the virtual WinXP, I was able to install the Virtual
>>>>Server 2005 R2 "app".
>>>>
>>>>When I use the web-based interface, it claims the Virtual Server service
>>>>starts, then shuts down. When I tried using the Admin tools on the
>>>>virtual
>>>>WinXP, and tried manually starting the Virtual Server service, it stars,
>>>>then shuts down. From what I'm seeing on the web-interface for Virtual
>>>>Server, that service MUST be running.
>>>>
>>>>Any hints?
>>>>
>>>>(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against
>>>>doing,
>>>>but ...)
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>Jeff Boyce
>>>>
>>
Sent: 12/01/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:> 1) install Virtual Server 2005 R2 on a day-in/day-out desktop PC with
Sure, that would work fine, but since it's for training and not
production, why not just install Win2003 in a VPC VM directly.
--
Bob Comer
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:23:47 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
Show quoted text
>WinXP Pro/SP2
> 2) install WinServer 2003 (or ?later) within Virtual Server 2005
>Thanks, Bob, Bo.
>
>I'm actually trying to get an instance of Win Server 2003 (or later) up so I
>can install the SQL-Server 2005 training materials. The book calls for
>Windows Server 2003 to be installed as the ?quasi-host for the SQL-Server
>2005 instance and materials, but I'm unable to lay my hands on a spare
>machine to put WinServer on so I thought I'd load WinServer inside a virtual
>space.
>
>Is it reasonable to:
> 1) install Virtual Server 2005 R2 on a day-in/day-out desktop PC with
>WinXP Pro/SP2
> 2) install WinServer 2003 (or ?later) within Virtual Server 2005
>
>Thanks again!
>
>Regards
>
>Jeff Boyce
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against
>> >doing,
>>>but ...)
>>
>> If you're trying to run Virtual Server in a VPC guest, yes, that's a
>> no-no, it wont work.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:31:38 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>>>I tried searching this newsgroup, Google, and MS ... didn't find info ...
>>>
>>>I have Virtual PC installed on a host WinXP (SP2) OS, and another Windows
>>>XP
>>>(SP2) OS installed as a virtual machine.
>>>
>>>According to what I found, Windows XP (SP?2) can be used as a
>>>non-production
>>>host OS for an installation of Virtual Server 2005 R2. After installing
>>>the
>>>IIS component(s) in the virtual WinXP, I was able to install the Virtual
>>>Server 2005 R2 "app".
>>>
>>>When I use the web-based interface, it claims the Virtual Server service
>>>starts, then shuts down. When I tried using the Admin tools on the
>>>virtual
>>>WinXP, and tried manually starting the Virtual Server service, it stars,
>>>then shuts down. From what I'm seeing on the web-interface for Virtual
>>>Server, that service MUST be running.
>>>
>>>Any hints?
>>>
>>>(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against doing,
>>>but ...)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Jeff Boyce
>>>
>
Sent: 12/01/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:31:38 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
How wise would this be?
Virtualizing software *inside* a virtualized operating system
(guest)?....
And as soon as we talk about VT technology it is also impossible. The
host must be running on the bare metal PC.
But if you have VPC2007 and want to experiment with Virtual Server
then by all means install it also. They work just fine together.
--
Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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>I tried searching this newsgroup, Google, and MS ... didn't find info ...
>
>I have Virtual PC installed on a host WinXP (SP2) OS, and another Windows XP
>(SP2) OS installed as a virtual machine.
>
>According to what I found, Windows XP (SP?2) can be used as a non-production
>host OS for an installation of Virtual Server 2005 R2. After installing the
>IIS component(s) in the virtual WinXP, I was able to install the Virtual
>Server 2005 R2 "app".
>
>When I use the web-based interface, it claims the Virtual Server service
>starts, then shuts down. When I tried using the Admin tools on the virtual
>WinXP, and tried manually starting the Virtual Server service, it stars,
>then shuts down. From what I'm seeing on the web-interface for Virtual
>Server, that service MUST be running.
>
>Any hints?
>
>(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against doing,
>but ...)
>
Sent: 12/01/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:>You're saying I can install Win Server 2003 in VPC?!
Yep!
--
Bob Comer
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:30:06 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
Show quoted text
>Bob
>
>I may have mis-spoke ... the training materials said I needed Windows Server
>2003 installed, and I thought that I could only install a server in a
>Virtual Server. You're saying I can install Win Server 2003 in VPC?!
>
>Cool!
>
>Jeff
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> 1) install Virtual Server 2005 R2 on a day-in/day-out desktop PC with
>>>WinXP Pro/SP2
>>> 2) install WinServer 2003 (or ?later) within Virtual Server 2005
>>
>> Sure, that would work fine, but since it's for training and not
>> production, why not just install Win2003 in a VPC VM directly.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:23:47 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks, Bob, Bo.
>>>
>>>I'm actually trying to get an instance of Win Server 2003 (or later) up so
>>>I
>>>can install the SQL-Server 2005 training materials. The book calls for
>>>Windows Server 2003 to be installed as the ?quasi-host for the SQL-Server
>>>2005 instance and materials, but I'm unable to lay my hands on a spare
>>>machine to put WinServer on so I thought I'd load WinServer inside a
>>>virtual
>>>space.
>>>
>>>Is it reasonable to:
>>> 1) install Virtual Server 2005 R2 on a day-in/day-out desktop PC with
>>>WinXP Pro/SP2
>>> 2) install WinServer 2003 (or ?later) within Virtual Server 2005
>>>
>>>Thanks again!
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Jeff Boyce
>>>
>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> >(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against
>>>> >doing,
>>>>>but ...)
>>>>
>>>> If you're trying to run Virtual Server in a VPC guest, yes, that's a
>>>> no-no, it wont work.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:31:38 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
>>>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I tried searching this newsgroup, Google, and MS ... didn't find info
>>>>>...
>>>>>
>>>>>I have Virtual PC installed on a host WinXP (SP2) OS, and another
>>>>>Windows
>>>>>XP
>>>>>(SP2) OS installed as a virtual machine.
>>>>>
>>>>>According to what I found, Windows XP (SP?2) can be used as a
>>>>>non-production
>>>>>host OS for an installation of Virtual Server 2005 R2. After installing
>>>>>the
>>>>>IIS component(s) in the virtual WinXP, I was able to install the Virtual
>>>>>Server 2005 R2 "app".
>>>>>
>>>>>When I use the web-based interface, it claims the Virtual Server service
>>>>>starts, then shuts down. When I tried using the Admin tools on the
>>>>>virtual
>>>>>WinXP, and tried manually starting the Virtual Server service, it stars,
>>>>>then shuts down. From what I'm seeing on the web-interface for Virtual
>>>>>Server, that service MUST be running.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any hints?
>>>>>
>>>>>(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against
>>>>>doing,
>>>>>but ...)
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>Jeff Boyce
>>>>>
>>>
>
Sent: 12/02/2008
From: "Jeff Boyce" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Thanks to all for support and encouragement.
I now have Win Server (2008, actually) running inside VPC. The SQL-Server
2005 instance and materials will follow after I figure out how to create a
"differencing" instance of the server, so I can keep that install clean
while messin' with the training-directed changes.
Regards
Jeff
"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
> >You're saying I can install Win Server 2003 in VPC?!
>
> Yep!
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:30:06 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>Bob
>>
>>I may have mis-spoke ... the training materials said I needed Windows
>>Server
>>2003 installed, and I thought that I could only install a server in a
>>Virtual Server. You're saying I can install Win Server 2003 in VPC?!
>>
>>Cool!
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> 1) install Virtual Server 2005 R2 on a day-in/day-out desktop PC with
>>>>WinXP Pro/SP2
>>>> 2) install WinServer 2003 (or ?later) within Virtual Server 2005
>>>
>>> Sure, that would work fine, but since it's for training and not
>>> production, why not just install Win2003 in a VPC VM directly.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:23:47 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
>>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks, Bob, Bo.
>>>>
>>>>I'm actually trying to get an instance of Win Server 2003 (or later) up
>>>>so
>>>>I
>>>>can install the SQL-Server 2005 training materials. The book calls for
>>>>Windows Server 2003 to be installed as the ?quasi-host for the
>>>>SQL-Server
>>>>2005 instance and materials, but I'm unable to lay my hands on a spare
>>>>machine to put WinServer on so I thought I'd load WinServer inside a
>>>>virtual
>>>>space.
>>>>
>>>>Is it reasonable to:
>>>> 1) install Virtual Server 2005 R2 on a day-in/day-out desktop PC with
>>>>WinXP Pro/SP2
>>>> 2) install WinServer 2003 (or ?later) within Virtual Server 2005
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>Jeff Boyce
>>>>
>>>>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> >(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against
>>>>> >doing,
>>>>>>but ...)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're trying to run Virtual Server in a VPC guest, yes, that's a
>>>>> no-no, it wont work.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:31:38 -0800, "Jeff Boyce"
>>>>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I tried searching this newsgroup, Google, and MS ... didn't find info
>>>>>>...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have Virtual PC installed on a host WinXP (SP2) OS, and another
>>>>>>Windows
>>>>>>XP
>>>>>>(SP2) OS installed as a virtual machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>According to what I found, Windows XP (SP?2) can be used as a
>>>>>>non-production
>>>>>>host OS for an installation of Virtual Server 2005 R2. After
>>>>>>installing
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>IIS component(s) in the virtual WinXP, I was able to install the
>>>>>>Virtual
>>>>>>Server 2005 R2 "app".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I use the web-based interface, it claims the Virtual Server
>>>>>>service
>>>>>>starts, then shuts down. When I tried using the Admin tools on the
>>>>>>virtual
>>>>>>WinXP, and tried manually starting the Virtual Server service, it
>>>>>>stars,
>>>>>>then shuts down. From what I'm seeing on the web-interface for
>>>>>>Virtual
>>>>>>Server, that service MUST be running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any hints?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(or is this a no-no? I wasn't able to find any admonitions against
>>>>>>doing,
>>>>>>but ...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jeff Boyce
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
Sent: 12/02/2008
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:
"Jeff Boyce" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
You certainly can. And it is much easier to work with than Virtual
Server.
Show quoted text
> Bob
>
> I may have mis-spoke ... the training materials said I needed Windows
> Server 2003 installed, and I thought that I could only install a server in
> a Virtual Server. You're saying I can install Win Server 2003 in VPC?!
>
> Cool!
>
> Jeff
>
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