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Video Woes

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 10/09/2009
From: selkov <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

I installed virtual pc 207 to run a dedicated game server (halo) and wa
told that the video card was not able to support the game.

is there soem way to upgrade teh video card emulation

or is there an alternative product that will support HALO

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selkov

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Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/10/2009
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:09:35 -0500, selkov <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:

Video games are generally speaking *not* the area of virtualization,
no matter which virtualization product you look at.
Emulated video is always very lacking.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

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>
>I installed virtual pc 207 to run a dedicated game server (halo) and was
>told that the video card was not able to support the game.
>
>is there soem way to upgrade teh video card emulation?
>
>or is there an alternative product that will support HALO?

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/10/2009
From: Ronald Phillips <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Oct 9, 10:09=A0pm, selkov <(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Try VirtualBox or Vmware Workstation 6.5+. They support D3D 8+ in
XP32bit+ guests.

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> I installed virtual pc 207 to run a dedicated game server (halo) and was
> told that the video card was not able to support the game.
>
> is there soem way to upgrade teh video card emulation?
>
> or is there an alternative product that will support HALO?
>
> --
> selkov

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/10/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"selkov" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

That's right - VPC emulates an S3 Trio graphics card...

No.

No.

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

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> I installed VirtualPC 2007 to run a dedicated game server (halo) and was
> told that the video card was not able to support the game.
> Is there some way to upgrade the video card emulation?
> Or is there an alternative product that will support HALO?

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/11/2009
From: selkov <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

thanks guys

of these two recommended "VirtualBox or Vmware Workstation 6.5+
is there any reason to use 1 over the other
performance
Ease of interface
color????

--
selkov

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/11/2009
From: whs <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

VirtualBox is easy to install and use. But I agree with the others - it
is probably not up to snuff for games.

--
whs

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/11/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:14:49 -0700 (PDT), Ronald Phillips
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Which should not be necessary for a Halo server:
From http://www.bungie.net
Halo dedicated server requires a personal computer with the following
minimum requirements:
? Multimedia personal computer with a 733 MHz or higher processor
? Windows 98 SE, Windows ME, Windows 2000 Service Pack 1, or Windows
XP
? 128 megabytes (MB) of RAM
? 200 MB of available hard disc space
? Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device
? Broadband internet connection

These differ from the retail version of Halo PC by not requiring:
? 8x CD-ROM drive
? 32 MB 3D hardware-transform-and-lighting capable video card
? Sound card and speakers or headphones
? DirectX 9.0b

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
http://smudj.wordpress.com/

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>On Oct 9, 10:09 pm, selkov <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>> I installed virtual pc 207 to run a dedicated game server (halo) and was
>> told that the video card was not able to support the game.
>>
>> is there soem way to upgrade teh video card emulation?
>>
>> or is there an alternative product that will support HALO?
>>
>> --
>> selkov
>
>Try VirtualBox or Vmware Workstation 6.5+. They support D3D 8+ in
>XP32bit+ guests.

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/11/2009
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:21:00 -0500, selkov <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:

The only thing I can think of is:
- VirtualBox is free
- VMWare Workstation 6.5.3 is not

But I still doubt that you will get what you want in terms of video
performance from either of them.
--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

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>
>thanks guys.
>
>of these two recommended "VirtualBox or Vmware Workstation 6.5+"
>is there any reason to use 1 over the other?
>performance?
>Ease of interface?
>color????/

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/12/2009
From: "Gary Mount" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

See...
http://communities.intel.com/community/openportit/server/blog/2008/09/22/3d-graphics-in-virtualization-using-intel-vtd-on-workstations

"selkov" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

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>
> I installed virtual pc 207 to run a dedicated game server (halo) and was
> told that the video card was not able to support the game.
>
> is there soem way to upgrade teh video card emulation?
>
> or is there an alternative product that will support HALO?
>
>
> --
> selkov

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/12/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

True but irrelevant, as the OP is looking (fruitlessly) for a virtualisation
solution which supports HALO...

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

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> If you have been using VPC 2007, VirtualBox has much the same look and
> feel as the Connectix based VPC.

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/12/2009
From: selkov <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Thanks to al

--
selkov

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/12/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:48:50 -0700, "Gary Mount"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Parallels Workstation Extreme is very interesting, if you have the
specific HP Z800 workstation, SLI-nVidia and $400 for the program.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
http://smudj.wordpress.com/

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>See...
>http://communities.intel.com/community/openportit/server/blog/2008/09/22/3d-graphics-in-virtualization-using-intel-vtd-on-workstations
>

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/12/2009
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:

"whs" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

If you have been using VPC 2007, VirtualBox has much the same look and
feel as the Connectix based VPC.

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>
> VirtualBox is easy to install and use. But I agree with the others - it
> is probably not up to snuff for games.
>
>
> --
> whs

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/12/2009
From: "Gary Mount" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

My computer supports the vt-d necessary to support the 3d graphics scenario
that my link points to.
My computer is an Intel i7 processor and I have 2 graphics cards installed,
so the only thing missing is a virtualization software that supports the new
vt-d specification.

"Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

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> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:48:50 -0700, "Gary Mount"
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>See...
>>http://communities.intel.com/community/openportit/server/blog/2008/09/22/3d-graphics-in-virtualization-using-intel-vtd-on-workstations
>>
> Parallels Workstation Extreme is very interesting, if you have the
> specific HP Z800 workstation, SLI-nVidia and $400 for the program.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> http://smudj.wordpress.com/

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/13/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:27:09 -0700, "Gary Mount"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Sure, but that link is from 2008. If you go to the Parallels website
and look at the current requirements. It's a very specific hardware
list at this time, are you going to drop $400?

* Select OEM Intel Xeon Processor 5500 Series Workstations with X58
Express Chipset for Intel VT-x and VT-d support.
* Supported NVIDIA Quadro FX graphics cards for Intel VT-d direct
assignment.
* Release Support: FX 3800/4800/5800

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
http://smudj.wordpress.com/

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>My computer supports the vt-d necessary to support the 3d graphics scenario
>that my link points to.
>My computer is an Intel i7 processor and I have 2 graphics cards installed,
>so the only thing missing is a virtualization software that supports the new
>vt-d specification.
>
>"Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:48:50 -0700, "Gary Mount"
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>>>See...
>>>http://communities.intel.com/community/openportit/server/blog/2008/09/22/3d-graphics-in-virtualization-using-intel-vtd-on-workstations
>>>
>> Parallels Workstation Extreme is very interesting, if you have the
>> specific HP Z800 workstation, SLI-nVidia and $400 for the program.
>>
>> --

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/13/2009
From: "Gary Mount" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Intel talks about this technology in a publication over three years old. I
am trying to point out that it looks like the technology is getting closer
to being available for relatively inexpensive desktop computers. The vt-d
component has been in my computer now for over 8 months and never used.

"Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

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> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:27:09 -0700, "Gary Mount"
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>My computer supports the vt-d necessary to support the 3d graphics
>>scenario
>>that my link points to.
>>My computer is an Intel i7 processor and I have 2 graphics cards
>>installed,
>>so the only thing missing is a virtualization software that supports the
>>new
>>vt-d specification.
>
> Sure, but that link is from 2008. If you go to the Parallels website
> and look at the current requirements. It's a very specific hardware
> list at this time, are you going to drop $400?
>
> * Select OEM Intel Xeon Processor 5500 Series Workstations with X58
> Express Chipset for Intel VT-x and VT-d support.
> * Supported NVIDIA Quadro FX graphics cards for Intel VT-d direct
> assignment.
> * Release Support: FX 3800/4800/5800
>
>
>>
>>"Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:48:50 -0700, "Gary Mount"
>>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>See...
>>>>http://communities.intel.com/community/openportit/server/blog/2008/09/22/3d-graphics-in-virtualization-using-intel-vtd-on-workstations
>>>>
>>> Parallels Workstation Extreme is very interesting, if you have the
>>> specific HP Z800 workstation, SLI-nVidia and $400 for the program.
>>>
>>> --
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> http://smudj.wordpress.com/

Re: Video Woes

Sent: 10/13/2009
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:27:09 -0700, "Gary Mount"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Maybe VMWare Workstation 7 or Player 3 can do it.
WS is in RC now:
http://communities.vmware.com/community/beta/workstation
They claim support for Aero in guests and probably a significantly
improved video overall.
I have no PC to test on since my main machine uses WS 6.5.3 and I
don't want to mess with that. 6.5.x cannot co-exist with the RC
AFAICT.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

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