Sent: 07/04/2009
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:
"Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
news:OEBxidD$(email address - cut out)...
If you want to play with AD, the best method is to put the server in
Local Only and give it a static IP in its own IP subnet (ie not the same one
as the host). You can then set up AD in its own domain with its own DNS (and
DHCP if you like).
With only 2G of memory you are pretty limited, but you could probably
run an XP guest as well if you give both server and client 512M each. Put
the guest in Local Only as well and it should get its network config from
DHCP on the server.
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> I want to add a server role to my guest OS Win2.3k server... DC
> I want to be able to play with Active Directory, mostly querying it using
> LDAP.
>
> I'm not really from a networking knowledge (more app prog). When I try to
> add this role Win2.3k asks me for a DNS FQDN. As this guest is just a
> stand alone instance there is no domain etc.
> Am I able to get around this stuff so I can get AD up and running?
Sent: 07/04/2009
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:
"Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
news:e#qhqcE$(email address - cut out)...
Where are you planning to talk to AD from? The host machine? I would not
recommend that. I also suggest you do a bit more reading on AD!
You select Local Only for the NIC in the guest from the vm settings for
the guest machine.
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> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:OM8pPKE$(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>
>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>> news:OEBxidD$(email address - cut out)...
>>> I want to add a server role to my guest OS Win2.3k server... DC
>>> I want to be able to play with Active Directory, mostly querying it
>>> using LDAP.
>>>
>>> I'm not really from a networking knowledge (more app prog). When I try
>>> to add this role Win2.3k asks me for a DNS FQDN. As this guest is just a
>>> stand alone instance there is no domain etc.
>>> Am I able to get around this stuff so I can get AD up and running?
>>
>> If you want to play with AD, the best method is to put the server in
>> Local Only and give it a static IP in its own IP subnet (ie not the same
>> one as the host). You can then set up AD in its own domain with its own
>> DNS (and DHCP if you like).
>>
>> With only 2G of memory you are pretty limited, but you could probably
>> run an XP guest as well if you give both server and client 512M each.
>> Put the guest in Local Only as well and it should get its network config
>> from DHCP on the server.
>
>
> Thanks Bill,
> I'm 99% certain I chose to not join a forest/domain at this point when
> setting up 2.3
> Is this what you meant? I'm not sure how to specify local only.
> I don't want another guest to talk to the server. Simply using .NET code
> to talk to AD on the server.
> Can you tell me where I assign the IP, Subnet addresses and set the DNS
> and DHCP options please?
Sent: 07/04/2009
From: "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re>
Message:
"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:OM8pPKE$(email address - cut out)...
Thanks Bill,
I'm 99% certain I chose to not join a forest/domain at this point when
setting up 2.3
Is this what you meant? I'm not sure how to specify local only.
I don't want another guest to talk to the server. Simply using .NET code to
talk to AD on the server.
Can you tell me where I assign the IP, Subnet addresses and set the DNS and
DHCP options please?
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>
>
> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
> news:OEBxidD$(email address - cut out)...
>> I want to add a server role to my guest OS Win2.3k server... DC
>> I want to be able to play with Active Directory, mostly querying it using
>> LDAP.
>>
>> I'm not really from a networking knowledge (more app prog). When I try to
>> add this role Win2.3k asks me for a DNS FQDN. As this guest is just a
>> stand alone instance there is no domain etc.
>> Am I able to get around this stuff so I can get AD up and running?
>
> If you want to play with AD, the best method is to put the server in
> Local Only and give it a static IP in its own IP subnet (ie not the same
> one as the host). You can then set up AD in its own domain with its own
> DNS (and DHCP if you like).
>
> With only 2G of memory you are pretty limited, but you could probably
> run an XP guest as well if you give both server and client 512M each. Put
> the guest in Local Only as well and it should get its network config from
> DHCP on the server.
Sent: 07/04/2009
From: "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re>
Message:
"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:uczP2gE$(email address - cut out)...
I plan to write code on the guest to query AD using LDAP on the guest. The
host plays no part here.
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>
>
> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
> news:e#qhqcE$(email address - cut out)...
>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>> news:OM8pPKE$(email address - cut out)...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>>> news:OEBxidD$(email address - cut out)...
>>>> I want to add a server role to my guest OS Win2.3k server... DC
>>>> I want to be able to play with Active Directory, mostly querying it
>>>> using LDAP.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not really from a networking knowledge (more app prog). When I try
>>>> to add this role Win2.3k asks me for a DNS FQDN. As this guest is just
>>>> a stand alone instance there is no domain etc.
>>>> Am I able to get around this stuff so I can get AD up and running?
>>>
>>> If you want to play with AD, the best method is to put the server in
>>> Local Only and give it a static IP in its own IP subnet (ie not the same
>>> one as the host). You can then set up AD in its own domain with its own
>>> DNS (and DHCP if you like).
>>>
>>> With only 2G of memory you are pretty limited, but you could probably
>>> run an XP guest as well if you give both server and client 512M each.
>>> Put the guest in Local Only as well and it should get its network config
>>> from DHCP on the server.
>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill,
>> I'm 99% certain I chose to not join a forest/domain at this point when
>> setting up 2.3
>> Is this what you meant? I'm not sure how to specify local only.
>> I don't want another guest to talk to the server. Simply using .NET code
>> to talk to AD on the server.
>> Can you tell me where I assign the IP, Subnet addresses and set the DNS
>> and DHCP options please?
>
> Where are you planning to talk to AD from? The host machine? I would not
> recommend that. I also suggest you do a bit more reading on AD!
>
> You select Local Only for the NIC in the guest from the vm settings for
> the guest machine.
Sent: 07/04/2009
From: "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re>
Message:
"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:uczP2gE$(email address - cut out)...
If I select local only I get no internet access for the guest.
But now that I have all the latest windows updates etc perhaps I don't need
net access anymore
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>
>
> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
> news:e#qhqcE$(email address - cut out)...
>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>> news:OM8pPKE$(email address - cut out)...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>>> news:OEBxidD$(email address - cut out)...
>>>> I want to add a server role to my guest OS Win2.3k server... DC
>>>> I want to be able to play with Active Directory, mostly querying it
>>>> using LDAP.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not really from a networking knowledge (more app prog). When I try
>>>> to add this role Win2.3k asks me for a DNS FQDN. As this guest is just
>>>> a stand alone instance there is no domain etc.
>>>> Am I able to get around this stuff so I can get AD up and running?
>>>
>>> If you want to play with AD, the best method is to put the server in
>>> Local Only and give it a static IP in its own IP subnet (ie not the same
>>> one as the host). You can then set up AD in its own domain with its own
>>> DNS (and DHCP if you like).
>>>
>>> With only 2G of memory you are pretty limited, but you could probably
>>> run an XP guest as well if you give both server and client 512M each.
>>> Put the guest in Local Only as well and it should get its network config
>>> from DHCP on the server.
>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill,
>> I'm 99% certain I chose to not join a forest/domain at this point when
>> setting up 2.3
>> Is this what you meant? I'm not sure how to specify local only.
>> I don't want another guest to talk to the server. Simply using .NET code
>> to talk to AD on the server.
>> Can you tell me where I assign the IP, Subnet addresses and set the DNS
>> and DHCP options please?
>
> Where are you planning to talk to AD from? The host machine? I would not
> recommend that. I also suggest you do a bit more reading on AD!
>
> You select Local Only for the NIC in the guest from the vm settings for
> the guest machine.
Sent: 07/05/2009
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:
"Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
news:eb2xhIH$(email address - cut out)...
Once you promote it to a DC, you wouldn't have Internet access anyway
unless you modified the DNS. You are better off having the DC isolated from
the host machine and any network it might connect to.
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> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:uczP2gE$(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>
>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>> news:e#qhqcE$(email address - cut out)...
>>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>>> news:OM8pPKE$(email address - cut out)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>>>> news:OEBxidD$(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> I want to add a server role to my guest OS Win2.3k server... DC
>>>>> I want to be able to play with Active Directory, mostly querying it
>>>>> using LDAP.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not really from a networking knowledge (more app prog). When I try
>>>>> to add this role Win2.3k asks me for a DNS FQDN. As this guest is just
>>>>> a stand alone instance there is no domain etc.
>>>>> Am I able to get around this stuff so I can get AD up and running?
>>>>
>>>> If you want to play with AD, the best method is to put the server in
>>>> Local Only and give it a static IP in its own IP subnet (ie not the
>>>> same one as the host). You can then set up AD in its own domain with
>>>> its own DNS (and DHCP if you like).
>>>>
>>>> With only 2G of memory you are pretty limited, but you could
>>>> probably run an XP guest as well if you give both server and client
>>>> 512M each. Put the guest in Local Only as well and it should get its
>>>> network config from DHCP on the server.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Bill,
>>> I'm 99% certain I chose to not join a forest/domain at this point when
>>> setting up 2.3
>>> Is this what you meant? I'm not sure how to specify local only.
>>> I don't want another guest to talk to the server. Simply using .NET code
>>> to talk to AD on the server.
>>> Can you tell me where I assign the IP, Subnet addresses and set the DNS
>>> and DHCP options please?
>>
>> Where are you planning to talk to AD from? The host machine? I would
>> not recommend that. I also suggest you do a bit more reading on AD!
>>
>> You select Local Only for the NIC in the guest from the vm settings for
>> the guest machine.
>
>
> If I select local only I get no internet access for the guest.
> But now that I have all the latest windows updates etc perhaps I don't
> need net access anymore
Sent: 07/12/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:53:36 +1200, "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re>
wrote:
you can't, AD requires all the networking components, including
working DNS.
Set up a local DNS server on your AD server.
--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
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>"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>news:O4%23D07P$(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>
>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>> news:eb2xhIH$(email address - cut out)...
>>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>>> news:uczP2gE$(email address - cut out)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>>>> news:e#qhqcE$(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OM8pPKE$(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OEBxidD$(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>>> I want to add a server role to my guest OS Win2.3k server... DC
>>>>>>> I want to be able to play with Active Directory, mostly querying it
>>>>>>> using LDAP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not really from a networking knowledge (more app prog). When I
>>>>>>> try to add this role Win2.3k asks me for a DNS FQDN. As this guest is
>>>>>>> just a stand alone instance there is no domain etc.
>>>>>>> Am I able to get around this stuff so I can get AD up and running?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to play with AD, the best method is to put the server in
>>>>>> Local Only and give it a static IP in its own IP subnet (ie not the
>>>>>> same one as the host). You can then set up AD in its own domain with
>>>>>> its own DNS (and DHCP if you like).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With only 2G of memory you are pretty limited, but you could
>>>>>> probably run an XP guest as well if you give both server and client
>>>>>> 512M each. Put the guest in Local Only as well and it should get its
>>>>>> network config from DHCP on the server.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Bill,
>>>>> I'm 99% certain I chose to not join a forest/domain at this point when
>>>>> setting up 2.3
>>>>> Is this what you meant? I'm not sure how to specify local only.
>>>>> I don't want another guest to talk to the server. Simply using .NET
>>>>> code to talk to AD on the server.
>>>>> Can you tell me where I assign the IP, Subnet addresses and set the DNS
>>>>> and DHCP options please?
>>>>
>>>> Where are you planning to talk to AD from? The host machine? I would
>>>> not recommend that. I also suggest you do a bit more reading on AD!
>>>>
>>>> You select Local Only for the NIC in the guest from the vm settings
>>>> for the guest machine.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I select local only I get no internet access for the guest.
>>> But now that I have all the latest windows updates etc perhaps I don't
>>> need net access anymore
>>
>> Once you promote it to a DC, you wouldn't have Internet access anyway
>> unless you modified the DNS. You are better off having the DC isolated
>> from the host machine and any network it might connect to.
>>
>
>OK I've changed the VPC settings to be "local only"
>Now I go to add/remove roles and select DC.
>It goes through the set up and tells me that I have to set up the DNS server
>address before I can continue.
>Any ideas?
>How can I get past all these networking config requirements and just get the
>role up and running so I can play with AD?
Sent: 07/12/2009
From: "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re>
Message:"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:O4%23D07P$(email address - cut out)...
OK I've changed the VPC settings to be "local only"
Now I go to add/remove roles and select DC.
It goes through the set up and tells me that I have to set up the DNS server
address before I can continue.
Any ideas?
How can I get past all these networking config requirements and just get the
role up and running so I can play with AD?
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>
>
> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
> news:eb2xhIH$(email address - cut out)...
>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>> news:uczP2gE$(email address - cut out)...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>>> news:e#qhqcE$(email address - cut out)...
>>>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>>>> news:OM8pPKE$(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OEBxidD$(email address - cut out)...
>>>>>> I want to add a server role to my guest OS Win2.3k server... DC
>>>>>> I want to be able to play with Active Directory, mostly querying it
>>>>>> using LDAP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not really from a networking knowledge (more app prog). When I
>>>>>> try to add this role Win2.3k asks me for a DNS FQDN. As this guest is
>>>>>> just a stand alone instance there is no domain etc.
>>>>>> Am I able to get around this stuff so I can get AD up and running?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to play with AD, the best method is to put the server in
>>>>> Local Only and give it a static IP in its own IP subnet (ie not the
>>>>> same one as the host). You can then set up AD in its own domain with
>>>>> its own DNS (and DHCP if you like).
>>>>>
>>>>> With only 2G of memory you are pretty limited, but you could
>>>>> probably run an XP guest as well if you give both server and client
>>>>> 512M each. Put the guest in Local Only as well and it should get its
>>>>> network config from DHCP on the server.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Bill,
>>>> I'm 99% certain I chose to not join a forest/domain at this point when
>>>> setting up 2.3
>>>> Is this what you meant? I'm not sure how to specify local only.
>>>> I don't want another guest to talk to the server. Simply using .NET
>>>> code to talk to AD on the server.
>>>> Can you tell me where I assign the IP, Subnet addresses and set the DNS
>>>> and DHCP options please?
>>>
>>> Where are you planning to talk to AD from? The host machine? I would
>>> not recommend that. I also suggest you do a bit more reading on AD!
>>>
>>> You select Local Only for the NIC in the guest from the vm settings
>>> for the guest machine.
>>
>>
>> If I select local only I get no internet access for the guest.
>> But now that I have all the latest windows updates etc perhaps I don't
>> need net access anymore
>
> Once you promote it to a DC, you wouldn't have Internet access anyway
> unless you modified the DNS. You are better off having the DC isolated
> from the host machine and any network it might connect to.
>
Sent: 07/13/2009
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:
As Steve said, that is all part and parcel of AD.
Give the server a static IP in its own subnet. Let dcpromo configure DNS
for you when you get that option. It won't work without it.
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>>How can I get past all these networking config requirements and just get
>>the
>>role up and running so I can play with AD?
>
> you can't, AD requires all the networking components, including
> working DNS.
> Set up a local DNS server on your AD server.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
Sent: 07/13/2009
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:58:40 +1200, "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re>
wrote:
If you aspire to become some kind of certified professional then
surely you really *must* be able to install and configure client side
networking??? What can be done nowadays without network access???
Do you want a Dummie's guide to tell you click-by-click and config
page by config page how to set the IP address of your Windows
networking?
Please go to a beginner's forum for this.
--
Bo Berglund
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>"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>
>>>>How can I get past all these networking config requirements and just get
>>>>the
>>>>role up and running so I can play with AD?
>>>
>>> you can't, AD requires all the networking components, including
>>> working DNS.
>>> Set up a local DNS server on your AD server.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>>
>> As Steve said, that is all part and parcel of AD.
>>
>> Give the server a static IP in its own subnet. Let dcpromo configure DNS
>> for you when you get that option. It won't work without it.
>
>
>In the interests of finishing this thread before Xmas could you list the
>places and values please? :)
>I'm a programmer not a network admin and although I know the jargon/techs
>you are talking about I am not certain how to navigate to the places in
>Windows and the values to provide.
Sent: 07/13/2009
From: "Jack" <(email address - cut out)re>
Message:"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
In the interests of finishing this thread before Xmas could you list the
places and values please? :)
I'm a programmer not a network admin and although I know the jargon/techs
you are talking about I am not certain how to navigate to the places in
Windows and the values to provide.
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>
>
>>>How can I get past all these networking config requirements and just get
>>>the
>>>role up and running so I can play with AD?
>>
>> you can't, AD requires all the networking components, including
>> working DNS.
>> Set up a local DNS server on your AD server.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>
> As Steve said, that is all part and parcel of AD.
>
> Give the server a static IP in its own subnet. Let dcpromo configure DNS
> for you when you get that option. It won't work without it.
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