Sent: 03/06/2009
From: Van Chocstraw <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Theslaz wrote:
Microsoft Virtual PC files are not compatible with VMWare.
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> Is it possible to run Vmware Player using Virtual PC's files. When
> starting Vmware Player; I have told it to open Virtual PC's "VMC" file
> and it just hangs at the opening screen.
>
> Is it possible to run a Virtual program with "Other" files?
Sent: 03/06/2009
From: Theslaz <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Van Chocstraw wrote:
Not what I wanted to hear! However; having said that; I may have to say
also that you could be mistaken. I asked my same question in a forum and
got a reply back telling me to look at the VMware vCenter Converter. It
has a conversion program there and it specifically says that it can
convert the Microsoft format to a VMware format. Haven't tried it; but
when I do; I'll let you know. The site's address:
http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/faqs.html
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> Theslaz wrote:
>> Is it possible to run Vmware Player using Virtual PC's files. When
>> starting Vmware Player; I have told it to open Virtual PC's "VMC" file
>> and it just hangs at the opening screen.
>>
>> Is it possible to run a Virtual program with "Other" files?
>
> Microsoft Virtual PC files are not compatible with VMWare.
>
>
>
>
Sent: 03/06/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Theslaz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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Compatibility and conversion aren't the same thing...
Plenty of file formats can be converted into plenty of other file formats -
that doesn't mean that they are compatible i.e. that they can be shared by
more than one application...
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Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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>> Microsoft Virtual PC files are not compatible with VMWare.
>
> Not what I wanted to hear! However; having said that; I may have to say
> also that you could be mistaken. I asked my same question in a forum and
> got a reply back telling me to look at the VMware vCenter Converter. It
> has a conversion program there and it specifically says that it can
> convert the Microsoft format to a VMware format.
Sent: 03/07/2009
From: Theslaz <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
Well add this to your knowledge base.
Downloaded the program; loaded Microsoft's Virtual PC file; aprox. one
hour later I had a Compatable/converted file that I had no problem
running on the VMware Player.
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> "Theslaz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:Wnisl.15608$Db2.5326@edtnps83...
>
>>> Microsoft Virtual PC files are not compatible with VMWare.
>>
>> Not what I wanted to hear! However; having said that; I may have to
>> say also that you could be mistaken. I asked my same question in a
>> forum and got a reply back telling me to look at the VMware vCenter
>> Converter. It has a conversion program there and it specifically says
>> that it can convert the Microsoft format to a VMware format.
>
> Compatibility and conversion aren't the same thing...
>
> Plenty of file formats can be converted into plenty of other file
> formats - that doesn't mean that they are compatible i.e. that they can
> be shared by more than one application...
>
>
Sent: 03/07/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Theslaz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:nplsl.15658$Db2.14906@edtnps83...
And that converted file still works with Virtual PC...?
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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>> Compatibility and conversion aren't the same thing...
>>
>> Plenty of file formats can be converted into plenty of other file
>> formats - that doesn't mean that they are compatible i.e. that they can
>> be shared by more than one application...
>>
> Well add this to your knowledge base.
>
> Downloaded the program; loaded Microsoft's Virtual PC file; aprox. one
> hour later I had a Compatable/converted file that I had no problem running
> on the VMware Player.
Sent: 03/07/2009
From: Theslaz <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
It leaves the original file in it's original location and builds a new
file that can be run on VMware.
I don't know if the new file will run on Microsoft's Virtual PC; I can
only assume not; as I dumped Virtual PC as soon as I determined that the
file worked with VMware. I find VMware is much more to my liking!
But then why would you want to try using the new file when the original
file is still in tact and in it's original location?
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> "Theslaz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:nplsl.15658$Db2.14906@edtnps83...
>
>>> Compatibility and conversion aren't the same thing...
>>>
>>> Plenty of file formats can be converted into plenty of other file
>>> formats - that doesn't mean that they are compatible i.e. that they
>>> can be shared by more than one application...
>>>
>> Well add this to your knowledge base.
>>
>> Downloaded the program; loaded Microsoft's Virtual PC file; aprox. one
>> hour later I had a Compatable/converted file that I had no problem
>> running on the VMware Player.
>
> And that converted file still works with Virtual PC...?
>
>
Sent: 03/07/2009
From: (email address - cut out) (CJ)
Message:Theslaz <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
Don't know about VMWare but you can use VDI (Vbox format), VHD (VPC
format) as well as VMWares format with VirtualBox.
http://www.virtualbox.org
/CJ
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>Is it possible to run Vmware Player using Virtual PC's files. When
>starting Vmware Player; I have told it to open Virtual PC's "VMC" file
>and it just hangs at the opening screen.
>
>Is it possible to run a Virtual program with "Other" files?
Sent: 03/07/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Theslaz" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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That's right.
It won't.
Because that's what compatibility means!
E.g. the Microsoft Word file format is compatible with Microsoft Word
(obviously!) and OpenOffice.
This means e.g. that you can create a document in Word and then email it to
a colleague who can't afford Microsoft Word so uses the free OpenOffice
instead. Your colleague opens the Word document in OpenOffice without
conversion because the file format is *compatible* between the two
applications - no conversion is needed. Your colleague then makes some
modifications to the Word document and emails it back to you. You open the
modified Word document in Word and continue working on it. At no stage in
this process has the Word document been *converted* - it doesn't need to be,
because the Word file format is *compatible* both with Microsoft Word and
OpenOffice.
The Microsoft Virtual PC vhd file format is *not* compatible with VMWare -
if it were, both Virtual PC and VMWare could work with it natively. The very
fact that you need to *convert* a VPC vhd into something that VMWare can use
(but then VPC cannot) indicates that the file format is not compatible
between the two applications.
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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>> And that converted file still works with Virtual PC...?
>
> It leaves the original file in it's original location and builds a new
> file that can be run on VMware.
> I don't know if the new file will run on Microsoft's Virtual PC;
> But then why would you want to try using the new file when the original
> file is still intact and in its original location?
Sent: 03/09/2009
From: Magnusb <(email address - cut out)>
Message:In article <nplsl.15658$Db2.14906@edtnps83>, (email address - cut out) says...
One thing to watch out for though: I had problems getting the mouse to
work properly in a VM I converted from Virtual PC. VMWare converter does
not always remove the Virtual PC "Virtual Machine Additions" (another
time I convetred it worked without any problems though).
A safe way to convert from VPC is to do this:
1) Uninstall VPC "Virtual machine Additions" from within Virtual PC.
2) Run VMWare converter. Choose to NOT install VMWare tools
automatically.
3) Boot the converted VMWare VM. Let Windows discover changed hardware
etc. Reboot when finished. Note: At this point you will not have VMWare
tools installed so no integrated mouse pointer etc.
4) After reboot install VMWare tools.
There might be some other methods to remove VPC "VMA" for example
removing registry settings but the approach above is the safest thing to
do.
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> Downloaded the program; loaded Microsoft's Virtual PC file; aprox. one
> hour later I had a Compatable/converted file that I had no problem
> running on the VMware Player.
Sent: 03/09/2009
From: Theslaz <(email address - cut out)>
Message:You are right! My mouse is a little bit jerky to say the least. I'll
play around with the settings and see what I can come up with. I only
use VMware occasionally to test programs that I'm looking at installing
on my main computer; so it's no big deal.
Magnusb wrote:
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> In article <nplsl.15658$Db2.14906@edtnps83>, (email address - cut out) says...
>> Downloaded the program; loaded Microsoft's Virtual PC file; aprox. one
>> hour later I had a Compatable/converted file that I had no problem
>> running on the VMware Player.
>
> One thing to watch out for though: I had problems getting the mouse to
> work properly in a VM I converted from Virtual PC. VMWare converter does
> not always remove the Virtual PC "Virtual Machine Additions" (another
> time I convetred it worked without any problems though).
>
> A safe way to convert from VPC is to do this:
>
> 1) Uninstall VPC "Virtual machine Additions" from within Virtual PC.
>
> 2) Run VMWare converter. Choose to NOT install VMWare tools
> automatically.
>
> 3) Boot the converted VMWare VM. Let Windows discover changed hardware
> etc. Reboot when finished. Note: At this point you will not have VMWare
> tools installed so no integrated mouse pointer etc.
>
> 4) After reboot install VMWare tools.
>
> There might be some other methods to remove VPC "VMA" for example
> removing registry settings but the approach above is the safest thing to
> do.
>
>
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