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Vista Ultimate 64

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 01/02/2009
From: Chet
Message:

I have Vista Ultimate 64. I need to run some programs under the 32 bit
version of Vista. 1. Do I download the 32 bit version of Virtual PC 2007,
or the 64? There is no where to provide the bit version when creating a
vertial pc. Do I have to acutally install the 32 bit version in the virtual
just to run a couple of Visual Studio 2005 programs? I cant get SQL Express
2005 to install in the 64 bit version.

I truly need to find some dummy instruction book.. tks

Sorry about sounding confused, but I am.

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Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/02/2009
From: Chet
Message:

!You almost got me there thanks guys.. A virtual pc is just like a clean
machine? I have 32 bit vista operating system software. In fact they came
together both 64 & 32. 1) I need to add a vista virtual, 2) load in vista
ultimate 32 in the virtual, which would then essentially be a 32 bit
machine. 3) Then install SQL Express in the virtual and run it. Does that
sound right?

"Bo Berglund" wrote:

Show quoted text

> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:18:01 -0800, Chet
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> >I have Vista Ultimate 64. I need to run some programs under the 32 bit
> >version of Vista. 1. Do I download the 32 bit version of Virtual PC 2007,
> >or the 64? There is no where to provide the bit version when creating a
> >vertial pc. Do I have to acutally install the 32 bit version in the virtual
> >just to run a couple of Visual Studio 2005 programs? I cant get SQL Express
> >2005 to install in the 64 bit version.
> >
> >I truly need to find some dummy instruction book.. tks
> >
> >Sorry about sounding confused, but I am.
>
> You install VPC2007 64 bit on your Vista 64 bit in order to be able to
> create virtual machines. This installes the same 32 bit VPC2007 system
> on your PC as on Vista 32, except some lowlever drivers are 64 bit.
>
> Any virtual machine you create using VPC2007 must have an operating
> system installed onto it just like a normal bare metal physical PC. So
> you need the installation media and the license to go for this.
>
> Note that no matter which bit size the host operating system is
> VPC2007 is only able to create 32 bit virtual machines and therefore
> you can only install 32 bit operating systems into such a machine.
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
>

Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/02/2009
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

>I have Vista Ultimate 64. I need to run some programs under the 32 bit

You need to download the 64-bit version if your host is a 64-bit OS.

VPC only runs 32-bit guests. (or 16-bit too actually) There's no
support for 64-bit guests.

--
Bob Comer

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:18:01 -0800, Chet
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Show quoted text

>version of Vista. 1. Do I download the 32 bit version of Virtual PC 2007,
>or the 64? There is no where to provide the bit version when creating a
>vertial pc. Do I have to acutally install the 32 bit version in the virtual
>just to run a couple of Visual Studio 2005 programs? I cant get SQL Express
>2005 to install in the 64 bit version.
>I have Vista Ultimate 64. I need to run some programs under the 32 bit
>version of Vista. 1. Do I download the 32 bit version of Virtual PC 2007,
>or the 64? There is no where to provide the bit version when creating a
>vertial pc. Do I have to acutally install the 32 bit version in the virtual
>just to run a couple of Visual Studio 2005 programs? I cant get SQL Express
>2005 to install in the 64 bit version.
>
>I truly need to find some dummy instruction book.. tks
>
>Sorry about sounding confused, but I am.

Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/02/2009
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Yep, that sounds right.

--
Bob Comer

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:00:01 -0800, Chet
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Show quoted text

>!You almost got me there thanks guys.. A virtual pc is just like a clean
>machine? I have 32 bit vista operating system software. In fact they came
>together both 64 & 32. 1) I need to add a vista virtual, 2) load in vista
>ultimate 32 in the virtual, which would then essentially be a 32 bit
>machine. 3) Then install SQL Express in the virtual and run it. Does that
>sound right?
>
>"Bo Berglund" wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:18:01 -0800, Chet
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>> >I have Vista Ultimate 64. I need to run some programs under the 32 bit
>> >version of Vista. 1. Do I download the 32 bit version of Virtual PC 2007,
>> >or the 64? There is no where to provide the bit version when creating a
>> >vertial pc. Do I have to acutally install the 32 bit version in the virtual
>> >just to run a couple of Visual Studio 2005 programs? I cant get SQL Express
>> >2005 to install in the 64 bit version.
>> >
>> >I truly need to find some dummy instruction book.. tks
>> >
>> >Sorry about sounding confused, but I am.
>>
>> You install VPC2007 64 bit on your Vista 64 bit in order to be able to
>> create virtual machines. This installes the same 32 bit VPC2007 system
>> on your PC as on Vista 32, except some lowlever drivers are 64 bit.
>>
>> Any virtual machine you create using VPC2007 must have an operating
>> system installed onto it just like a normal bare metal physical PC. So
>> you need the installation media and the license to go for this.
>>
>> Note that no matter which bit size the host operating system is
>> VPC2007 is only able to create 32 bit virtual machines and therefore
>> you can only install 32 bit operating systems into such a machine.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
>>

Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/03/2009
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:18:01 -0800, Chet
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

You install VPC2007 64 bit on your Vista 64 bit in order to be able to
create virtual machines. This installes the same 32 bit VPC2007 system
on your PC as on Vista 32, except some lowlever drivers are 64 bit.

Any virtual machine you create using VPC2007 must have an operating
system installed onto it just like a normal bare metal physical PC. So
you need the installation media and the license to go for this.

Note that no matter which bit size the host operating system is
VPC2007 is only able to create 32 bit virtual machines and therefore
you can only install 32 bit operating systems into such a machine.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

Show quoted text

>I have Vista Ultimate 64. I need to run some programs under the 32 bit
>version of Vista. 1. Do I download the 32 bit version of Virtual PC 2007,
>or the 64? There is no where to provide the bit version when creating a
>vertial pc. Do I have to acutally install the 32 bit version in the virtual
>just to run a couple of Visual Studio 2005 programs? I cant get SQL Express
>2005 to install in the 64 bit version.
>
>I truly need to find some dummy instruction book.. tks
>
>Sorry about sounding confused, but I am.

Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/03/2009
From: Chet
Message:

Still struggling... Thanks Jane, why wouldn't I have thought that way.
Please tell me.... I also have xp pro. In the box. When I tried to load
that into a virtual drive, it gets into it just a little way then say I'm
trying to load an older version than whats on the system? Once I start the
virtual drive, I select CD then place the xp software in the drive and
restart. Perhaps I'm not doing the boot right. Looking for a dummies book.

"Jane C" wrote:

Show quoted text

> "Chet" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> > !You almost got me there thanks guys.. A virtual pc is just like a clean
> > machine? I have 32 bit vista operating system software. In fact they
> > came
> > together both 64 & 32. 1) I need to add a vista virtual, 2) load in vista
> > ultimate 32 in the virtual, which would then essentially be a 32 bit
> > machine. 3) Then install SQL Express in the virtual and run it. Does
> > that
> > sound right?
> >
>
>
> Almost, but not quite. If you have a retail box with Vista Ultimate which
> contains both x86 and x64 DVDs, your licence only allows you to run one or
> the other. Not both. You would need to purchase an additional licence for
> the 32 bit install in your virtual machine.
>
> --
> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
> MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>
>

Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/03/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:01:01 -0800, Chet
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Do NOT restart your computer with the XP CD in the drive!!!

You run the install INSIDE of VPC. What you're doing is trying to
install XP on the physical computer.

There are detailed instructions for installing OSes in VPC on my
website, VPC TechRef.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/

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Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/03/2009
From: "Jane C" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Chet" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Almost, but not quite. If you have a retail box with Vista Ultimate which
contains both x86 and x64 DVDs, your licence only allows you to run one or
the other. Not both. You would need to purchase an additional licence for
the 32 bit install in your virtual machine.

--
Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Show quoted text

> !You almost got me there thanks guys.. A virtual pc is just like a clean
> machine? I have 32 bit vista operating system software. In fact they
> came
> together both 64 & 32. 1) I need to add a vista virtual, 2) load in vista
> ultimate 32 in the virtual, which would then essentially be a 32 bit
> machine. 3) Then install SQL Express in the virtual and run it. Does
> that
> sound right?
>

Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/03/2009
From: Chet
Message:

Thanks again to you folks. I'm now printing out your instructions. I
realized I was doing it wrong when it referred to the newer verison. My
version of windows xp pro is academic addition, but that shouldn't matter.
Thanks for being there.

Chet

"Steve Jain [MVP]" wrote:

Show quoted text

> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:01:01 -0800, Chet
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> >Still struggling... Thanks Jane, why wouldn't I have thought that way.
> >Please tell me.... I also have xp pro. In the box. When I tried to load
> >that into a virtual drive, it gets into it just a little way then say I'm
> >trying to load an older version than whats on the system? Once I start the
> >virtual drive, I select CD then place the xp software in the drive and
> >restart. Perhaps I'm not doing the boot right. Looking for a dummies book.
> >
>
> Do NOT restart your computer with the XP CD in the drive!!!
>
> You run the install INSIDE of VPC. What you're doing is trying to
> install XP on the physical computer.
>
> There are detailed instructions for installing OSes in VPC on my
> website, VPC TechRef.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>

Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/03/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Chet" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

Show quoted text

> Still struggling... Thanks Jane, why wouldn't I have thought that way.
> Please tell me.... I also have xp pro. In the box. When I tried to load
> that into a virtual drive, it gets into it just a little way then say I'm
> trying to load an older version than whats on the system? Once I start
> the
> virtual drive, I select CD then place the xp software in the drive and
> restart. Perhaps I'm not doing the boot right. Looking for a dummies
> book.
>
> "Jane C" wrote:
>
>> "Chet" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> > !You almost got me there thanks guys.. A virtual pc is just like a
>> > clean
>> > machine? I have 32 bit vista operating system software. In fact they
>> > came
>> > together both 64 & 32. 1) I need to add a vista virtual, 2) load in
>> > vista
>> > ultimate 32 in the virtual, which would then essentially be a 32 bit
>> > machine. 3) Then install SQL Express in the virtual and run it. Does
>> > that
>> > sound right?
>> >
>>
>>
>> Almost, but not quite. If you have a retail box with Vista Ultimate
>> which
>> contains both x86 and x64 DVDs, your licence only allows you to run one
>> or
>> the other. Not both. You would need to purchase an additional licence
>> for
>> the 32 bit install in your virtual machine.
>>
>> --
>> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
>> MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>

Re: Vista Ultimate 64

Sent: 01/03/2009
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Chet" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

That sounds very much like you're, unfortunately, trying to install XP Pro
on your host machine - if you were installing it correctly on a new virtual
hard drive, you wouldn't get that message because there is no OS already
installed on it...

What do you mean by "starting the virtual drive"? Do you mean launch the
virtual machine? If so, then what were you actually doing before you
"started the virtual drive" which caused the message to be shown?

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

Show quoted text

>> Almost, but not quite. If you have a retail box with Vista Ultimate
>> which
>> contains both x86 and x64 DVDs, your licence only allows you to run one
>> or
>> the other. Not both. You would need to purchase an additional licence
>> for
>> the 32 bit install in your virtual machine.
>
> Please tell me.... I also have xp pro. In the box. When I tried to load
> that into a virtual drive, it gets into it just a little way then say I'm
> trying to load an older version than whats on the system?
> Once I start the virtual drive, I select CD then place the XP software in
> the drive and
> restart.

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