>I was somewhat disappointed to learn that virtualpc didn't have
>many device options available after I installed winxp.
>
>however, after installing and reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>this program provides an array of available devices, like usb.
>
>is there any reason why winxp should not function better in
>virtualbox then being limited by the features of virtualpc?
>-----------------------------------
>
>incidentally, I also discovered that virtual box could tap into
>the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>
>but in doing so, windows came back with a message that it
>recovered from a registry error and due to the new hardware
>change, winxp wanted to be reactivated.
>
>I guess all the extras provided by virtual box increased the
>hardware id that windows had while in virtual pc.
>
>but now I wonder if I would be wasting my time and resources
>utilizing the limitating virtualpc for winxp when it seems that
>virtualbox is more advanced.
>
>any suggestions as to how I might get winxp into virtualbox
>without reinstalling and or reactivating?
>

>wasting my time and resources
>utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>for winxp when it seems that
>virtualbox is more advanced.
>any suggestions as to how
>I might get winxp into virtualbox
>without reinstalling and or
>reactivating?
>I was somewhat disappointed to
>learn that virtualpc didn't have
>many device options available
>after I installed winxp.
>
>however, after installing and
>reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>this program provides an array
>of available devices, like usb.
>
>is there any reason why winxp
>should not function better in
>virtualbox then being limited
>by the features of virtualpc?
>
>-----------------------------------
>
>incidentally, I also discovered
>that virtual box could tap into
>the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>
>but in doing so, windows came
>back with a message that it
>recovered from a registry error
>and due to the new hardware
>change, winxp wanted to be
>reactivated.
>
>I guess all the extras provided
>by virtual box increased the
>hardware id that windows had
>while in virtual pc.
>
>fortunately, I had a backup copy
>of the vhd file and used it to
>restore the previously activated
>winxp in virtual pc.
>
>---------------------
>
>but now I wonder if I would be
>wasting my time and resources
>utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>for winxp when it seems that
>virtualbox is more advanced.
>
>any suggestions as to how
>I might get winxp into virtualbox
>without reinstalling and or
>reactivating?
>

> I was somewhat disappointed to
> learn that virtualpc didn't have
> many device options available
> after I installed winxp.
>
> however, after installing and
> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
> this program provides an array
> of available devices, like usb.
>
> is there any reason why winxp
> should not function better in
> virtualbox then being limited
> by the features of virtualpc?
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> incidentally, I also discovered
> that virtual box could tap into
> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>
> but in doing so, windows came
> back with a message that it
> recovered from a registry error
> and due to the new hardware
> change, winxp wanted to be
> reactivated.
>
> I guess all the extras provided
> by virtual box increased the
> hardware id that windows had
> while in virtual pc.
>
> fortunately, I had a backup copy
> of the vhd file and used it to
> restore the previously activated
> winxp in virtual pc.
>
> ---------------------
>
> but now I wonder if I would be
> wasting my time and resources
> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
> for winxp when it seems that
> virtualbox is more advanced.
>
> any suggestions as to how
> I might get winxp into virtualbox
> without reinstalling and or
> reactivating?

> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:46:51 -0600, db ·´¯`·.¸. .><)))º>. <databaseben
> via hotmail> wrote:
>
>>I was somewhat disappointed to learn that virtualpc didn't have
>>many device options available after I installed winxp.
>
> Other than USB there's little difference in the virtual hardware.
>
>>
>>however, after installing and reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>>this program provides an array of available devices, like usb.
>>
>>is there any reason why winxp should not function better in
>>virtualbox then being limited by the features of virtualpc?
>
> if you need USB, then you'll need to use an alternative to VPC. For
> most of my VMs, I don't need USB, so VPC does exactly what I need.
>
>>-----------------------------------
>>
>>incidentally, I also discovered that virtual box could tap into
>>the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>>
>>but in doing so, windows came back with a message that it
>>recovered from a registry error and due to the new hardware
>>change, winxp wanted to be reactivated.
>
> You need to make sure you remove the VM Additions before trying to run
> a VPC VM in VirtualBox, but you'll still need to reactive.
> I don't think you can get around reactivating XP when you move to
> VirtualBox from VPC, its got a completely different hardware set
> (virtually) so to XP it looks like you changed everything but your
> CPU.
>
>>
>>I guess all the extras provided by virtual box increased the
>>hardware id that windows had while in virtual pc.
>
> see above
>
>>
>>but now I wonder if I would be wasting my time and resources
>>utilizing the limitating virtualpc for winxp when it seems that
>>virtualbox is more advanced.
>
> Depends on what you really need to do. As I mentioned VPC does
> everything I need for most of my VMs. Although I do use VM Ware
> Workstation also (mostly Linux and x64 VMs)
>
>>
>>any suggestions as to how I might get winxp into virtualbox
>>without reinstalling and or reactivating?
>>
> See above.
> For technical support for VirtualBox, their community is here:
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Community
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/

>>but now I wonder if I would be
>>wasting my time and resources
>>utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>>for winxp when it seems that
>>virtualbox is more advanced.
>
> VirtualBox never was that stable for me, especially the networking,
> but if it works for you and for what you need, why not?
>
>>any suggestions as to how
>>I might get winxp into virtualbox
>>without reinstalling and or
>>reactivating?
>
> Can't be done, the hardware emulated is different. You're going to
> have to reactivate it. (or start fresh.)
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:46:51 -0600, db ·´¯`·.¸. .><)))º>. <databaseben
> via hotmail> wrote:
>
>>I was somewhat disappointed to
>>learn that virtualpc didn't have
>>many device options available
>>after I installed winxp.
>>
>>however, after installing and
>>reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>>this program provides an array
>>of available devices, like usb.
>>
>>is there any reason why winxp
>>should not function better in
>>virtualbox then being limited
>>by the features of virtualpc?
>>
>>-----------------------------------
>>
>>incidentally, I also discovered
>>that virtual box could tap into
>>the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>>
>>but in doing so, windows came
>>back with a message that it
>>recovered from a registry error
>>and due to the new hardware
>>change, winxp wanted to be
>>reactivated.
>>
>>I guess all the extras provided
>>by virtual box increased the
>>hardware id that windows had
>>while in virtual pc.
>>
>>fortunately, I had a backup copy
>>of the vhd file and used it to
>>restore the previously activated
>>winxp in virtual pc.
>>
>>---------------------
>>
>>but now I wonder if I would be
>>wasting my time and resources
>>utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>>for winxp when it seems that
>>virtualbox is more advanced.
>>
>>any suggestions as to how
>>I might get winxp into virtualbox
>>without reinstalling and or
>>reactivating?
>>

> On Dec 6, 8:46 pm, db ·´¯`·.¸. .><)))º>. <databaseben via hotmail>
> wrote:
>> I was somewhat disappointed to
>> learn that virtualpc didn't have
>> many device options available
>> after I installed winxp.
>>
>> however, after installing and
>> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>> this program provides an array
>> of available devices, like usb.
>>
>> is there any reason why winxp
>> should not function better in
>> virtualbox then being limited
>> by the features of virtualpc?
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>> incidentally, I also discovered
>> that virtual box could tap into
>> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>>
>> but in doing so, windows came
>> back with a message that it
>> recovered from a registry error
>> and due to the new hardware
>> change, winxp wanted to be
>> reactivated.
>>
>> I guess all the extras provided
>> by virtual box increased the
>> hardware id that windows had
>> while in virtual pc.
>>
>> fortunately, I had a backup copy
>> of the vhd file and used it to
>> restore the previously activated
>> winxp in virtual pc.
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> but now I wonder if I would be
>> wasting my time and resources
>> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>> for winxp when it seems that
>> virtualbox is more advanced.
>>
>> any suggestions as to how
>> I might get winxp into virtualbox
>> without reinstalling and or
>> reactivating?
>
> Your best off testing the products yourself and forming your own
> opinion. Your not going to get an objective opinion on a group
> dedicated to a specific VM.
>

> <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Your best off testing the products yourself and forming
>> your own opinion.
>
> Yes.
>
>> Your not going to get an objective opinion on a group
>> dedicated to a specific VM.
>
> You may well get an objective opinion. More than a few of us here have
> tried other products. Some of us still use more than one, depending on
> what we're trying to accomplish. I've used Bochs, VMware, and VPC, for
> example. Even some of the MVP's have commented on cases where VMware is
> the better solution.
>
> - Bill
>
>

> Your best off testing the products yourself and forming
> your own opinion.
> Your not going to get an objective opinion on a group
> dedicated to a specific VM.

>that's what I thought.
>
>thanks for the feedback!
>
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>but now I wonder if I would be
>>>wasting my time and resources
>>>utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>>>for winxp when it seems that
>>>virtualbox is more advanced.
>>
>> VirtualBox never was that stable for me, especially the networking,
>> but if it works for you and for what you need, why not?
>>
>>>any suggestions as to how
>>>I might get winxp into virtualbox
>>>without reinstalling and or
>>>reactivating?
>>
>> Can't be done, the hardware emulated is different. You're going to
>> have to reactivate it. (or start fresh.)
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:46:51 -0600, db ·´¯`·.¸. .><)))º>. <databaseben
>> via hotmail> wrote:
>>
>>>I was somewhat disappointed to
>>>learn that virtualpc didn't have
>>>many device options available
>>>after I installed winxp.
>>>
>>>however, after installing and
>>>reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>>>this program provides an array
>>>of available devices, like usb.
>>>
>>>is there any reason why winxp
>>>should not function better in
>>>virtualbox then being limited
>>>by the features of virtualpc?
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------
>>>
>>>incidentally, I also discovered
>>>that virtual box could tap into
>>>the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>>>
>>>but in doing so, windows came
>>>back with a message that it
>>>recovered from a registry error
>>>and due to the new hardware
>>>change, winxp wanted to be
>>>reactivated.
>>>
>>>I guess all the extras provided
>>>by virtual box increased the
>>>hardware id that windows had
>>>while in virtual pc.
>>>
>>>fortunately, I had a backup copy
>>>of the vhd file and used it to
>>>restore the previously activated
>>>winxp in virtual pc.
>>>
>>>---------------------
>>>
>>>but now I wonder if I would be
>>>wasting my time and resources
>>>utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>>>for winxp when it seems that
>>>virtualbox is more advanced.
>>>
>>>any suggestions as to how
>>>I might get winxp into virtualbox
>>>without reinstalling and or
>>>reactivating?
>>>

> Even some of the MVPs have commented on cases where VMWare is the better
> solution.

>well, I think vpc could be
>better.
>
>what I am seeking is a method
>to run a usb printer from a virtual
>enviroment because it cannot run
>from vista due to hp not wanting
>to provide an updated driver.
>
>and I am not going to buy a
>new laser printer since this
>one works very well if I boot
>into winxp via my slave drive.
>
>it seems that ubunto has
>some usb functionality and
>virtual box does acknowledge
>the hp printer connected to
>the usb.
>
>but I am having some difficulty
>getting anything to print to
>the printer from ubunto.
>
>any ideas?
>

> I was somewhat disappointed to
> learn that virtualpc didn't have
> many device options available
> after I installed winxp.
>=20
> however, after installing and
> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
> this program provides an array
> of available devices, like usb.
>=20
> is there any reason why winxp
> should not function better in
> virtualbox then being limited
> by the features of virtualpc?
>=20
> -----------------------------------
>=20
> incidentally, I also discovered
> that virtual box could tap into
> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>=20
> but in doing so, windows came
> back with a message that it
> recovered from a registry error
> and due to the new hardware
> change, winxp wanted to be
> reactivated.
>=20
> I guess all the extras provided
> by virtual box increased the
> hardware id that windows had
> while in virtual pc.
>=20
> fortunately, I had a backup copy
> of the vhd file and used it to
> restore the previously activated
> winxp in virtual pc.
>=20
> ---------------------
>=20
> but now I wonder if I would be
> wasting my time and resources
> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
> for winxp when it seems that
> virtualbox is more advanced.
>=20
> any suggestions as to how
> I might get winxp into virtualbox
> without reinstalling and or=20
> reactivating?
> =20

> for me Virtual PC is best compare to vmware or virtual box
>
> VPC nearly Zero Config and few click to create a Virtual machine for
> GENERAL usage.
>
> I don't think detail config are need for VPC
>
> " db ·´¯`·.¸. .><)))º>." <databaseben via hotmail> 在郵件
> news:(email address - cut out) 中撰寫...
>>I was somewhat disappointed to
>> learn that virtualpc didn't have
>> many device options available
>> after I installed winxp.
>>
>> however, after installing and
>> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>> this program provides an array
>> of available devices, like usb.
>>
>> is there any reason why winxp
>> should not function better in
>> virtualbox then being limited
>> by the features of virtualpc?
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>> incidentally, I also discovered
>> that virtual box could tap into
>> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>>
>> but in doing so, windows came
>> back with a message that it
>> recovered from a registry error
>> and due to the new hardware
>> change, winxp wanted to be
>> reactivated.
>>
>> I guess all the extras provided
>> by virtual box increased the
>> hardware id that windows had
>> while in virtual pc.
>>
>> fortunately, I had a backup copy
>> of the vhd file and used it to
>> restore the previously activated
>> winxp in virtual pc.
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> but now I wonder if I would be
>> wasting my time and resources
>> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>> for winxp when it seems that
>> virtualbox is more advanced.
>>
>> any suggestions as to how
>> I might get winxp into virtualbox
>> without reinstalling and or reactivating?
>>
>

> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:35:44 -0600, db ·´¯`·.¸. .><)))º>. <databaseben
> via hotmail> wrote:
>
>>well, I think vpc could be
>>better.
>>
>>what I am seeking is a method
>>to run a usb printer from a virtual
>>enviroment because it cannot run
>>from vista due to hp not wanting
>>to provide an updated driver.
>
> this is a no go in VPC, there is no USB support, so there's no way to
> print unless you've got a printer driver for the host OS and share if
> via the network.
>
>>
>>and I am not going to buy a
>>new laser printer since this
>>one works very well if I boot
>>into winxp via my slave drive.
>>
>>it seems that ubunto has
>>some usb functionality and
>>virtual box does acknowledge
>>the hp printer connected to
>>the usb.
>>
>>but I am having some difficulty
>>getting anything to print to
>>the printer from ubunto.
>>
>>any ideas?
>>
>
> for virtualbox help, you're better off asking in their support group,
> instead of Virtual PC's.
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Community
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/

> db ·´¯`·.¸. .><)))º>. wrote:
>> I was somewhat disappointed to
>> learn that virtualpc didn't have
>> many device options available
>> after I installed winxp.
>>
>> however, after installing and
>> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>> this program provides an array
>> of available devices, like usb.
>>
>> is there any reason why winxp
>> should not function better in
>> virtualbox then being limited
>> by the features of virtualpc?
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>> incidentally, I also discovered
>> that virtual box could tap into
>> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>>
>> but in doing so, windows came
>> back with a message that it
>> recovered from a registry error
>> and due to the new hardware
>> change, winxp wanted to be
>> reactivated.
>>
>> I guess all the extras provided
>> by virtual box increased the
>> hardware id that windows had
>> while in virtual pc.
>>
>> fortunately, I had a backup copy
>> of the vhd file and used it to
>> restore the previously activated
>> winxp in virtual pc.
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> but now I wonder if I would be
>> wasting my time and resources
>> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>> for winxp when it seems that
>> virtualbox is more advanced.
>>
>> any suggestions as to how
>> I might get winxp into virtualbox
>> without reinstalling and or reactivating?
>>
>
> Since I do a lot of software development the need for VMs and VM
> appliances are a fact of life. My first experience with VMs was Linux -
> Debian on VMPlayer. Then I tried VirtualPC, then lastly I tried
> VirtualBox.
>
> Like most things, there is no perfect tool. I actually have all three on
> my computer and use each where they seem to do the most good. I run
> FreeDOS, MSDOS and Windows up to Windows2000pe under VirtualPC. The Linux
> distros (except for Ubuntu 8.04 which I run under VirtualPC) I run under
> VMPlayer. I have WindowsXPpe[sp3] for all 3, but I do a lot of the
> developing inside of VirtualBox. I have had a need lately for being able
> to do USB access for a few applications I am working on, which of course
> leaves out VirtualPC. I have heard a number of good things about VMPlayer
> and USB, but since Sun took over development of VirtualBox, I have found
> that it best meets my needs for USB support. But as I said, each of the VM
> managers has there strong-points. If you want to build straight
> appliances, I do still like VMWare the best.
>
> Sincerely,
> C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T
>
> CSD Computer Services
>
> Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/
> E-mail: (email address - cut out)
>

> thanks for the helpful info.
>
> it does seem to me that
> usb is a vital device these
> days and one wonders why
> vpc lacks it - deliberately.
>
> although I think the windows
> runs excellent in vpc, I am
> contemplating of running
> winxp in virtual box instead.
>
> I did try to install winxp directly
> via virtual box, but I received
> numerous errors that virtually
> prohibited from it from installing.
>
> recently, I reviewed the virtual
> box forum, and it seems that
> at least one other person was
> also having issues.
>
> however, before making the
> attempt of installing winxp
> via virtual box, I did tap into
> the winxp virtual harddisk.vd
> with virtual box.
>
> but I began getting the message
> that windows needed to be
> reactivated in 3 days and
> basically I couldn't proceed
> by skipping the activation.
>
> have you installed winxp in
> virtual box?
>
>
>
> "C.Joseph Drayton" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:493d9dc9$0$90274$(email address - cut out)...
> > db `.. .><)))>. wrote:
> >> I was somewhat disappointed to
> >> learn that virtualpc didn't have
> >> many device options available
> >> after I installed winxp.
> >>
> >> however, after installing and
> >> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
> >> this program provides an array
> >> of available devices, like usb.
> >>
> >> is there any reason why winxp
> >> should not function better in
> >> virtualbox then being limited
> >> by the features of virtualpc?
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------
> >>
> >> incidentally, I also discovered
> >> that virtual box could tap into
> >> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
> >>
> >> but in doing so, windows came
> >> back with a message that it
> >> recovered from a registry error
> >> and due to the new hardware
> >> change, winxp wanted to be
> >> reactivated.
> >>
> >> I guess all the extras provided
> >> by virtual box increased the
> >> hardware id that windows had
> >> while in virtual pc.
> >>
> >> fortunately, I had a backup copy
> >> of the vhd file and used it to
> >> restore the previously activated
> >> winxp in virtual pc.
> >>
> >> ---------------------
> >>
> >> but now I wonder if I would be
> >> wasting my time and resources
> >> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
> >> for winxp when it seems that
> >> virtualbox is more advanced.
> >>
> >> any suggestions as to how
> >> I might get winxp into virtualbox
> >> without reinstalling and or reactivating?
> >>
> >
> > Since I do a lot of software development the need for VMs and VM
> > appliances are a fact of life. My first experience with VMs was Linux -
> > Debian on VMPlayer. Then I tried VirtualPC, then lastly I tried
> > VirtualBox.
> >
> > Like most things, there is no perfect tool. I actually have all three on
> > my computer and use each where they seem to do the most good. I run
> > FreeDOS, MSDOS and Windows up to Windows2000pe under VirtualPC. The Linux
> > distros (except for Ubuntu 8.04 which I run under VirtualPC) I run under
> > VMPlayer. I have WindowsXPpe[sp3] for all 3, but I do a lot of the
> > developing inside of VirtualBox. I have had a need lately for being able
> > to do USB access for a few applications I am working on, which of course
> > leaves out VirtualPC. I have heard a number of good things about VMPlayer
> > and USB, but since Sun took over development of VirtualBox, I have found
> > that it best meets my needs for USB support. But as I said, each of the VM
> > managers has there strong-points. If you want to build straight
> > appliances, I do still like VMWare the best.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T
> >
> > CSD Computer Services
> >
> > Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/
> > E-mail: (email address - cut out)
> >

>I was somewhat disappointed to
> learn that virtualpc didn't have
> many device options available
> after I installed winxp.
>
> however, after installing and
> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
> this program provides an array
> of available devices, like usb.
>
> is there any reason why winxp
> should not function better in
> virtualbox then being limited
> by the features of virtualpc?
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> incidentally, I also discovered
> that virtual box could tap into
> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>
> but in doing so, windows came
> back with a message that it
> recovered from a registry error
> and due to the new hardware
> change, winxp wanted to be
> reactivated.
>
> I guess all the extras provided
> by virtual box increased the
> hardware id that windows had
> while in virtual pc.
>
> fortunately, I had a backup copy
> of the vhd file and used it to
> restore the previously activated
> winxp in virtual pc.
>
> ---------------------
>
> but now I wonder if I would be
> wasting my time and resources
> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
> for winxp when it seems that
> virtualbox is more advanced.
>
> any suggestions as to how
> I might get winxp into virtualbox
> without reinstalling and or reactivating?
>

> I'm not sure if this will work but have you tried a serial emulator?
> I use DeLorme serial emulator to use my usb gps as a serial connection.
> Something like that might work for your issue.
>
> "db ·´¯`·.¸. .><)))º>." wrote:
>
>> thanks for the helpful info.
>>
>> it does seem to me that
>> usb is a vital device these
>> days and one wonders why
>> vpc lacks it - deliberately.
>>
>> although I think the windows
>> runs excellent in vpc, I am
>> contemplating of running
>> winxp in virtual box instead.
>>
>> I did try to install winxp directly
>> via virtual box, but I received
>> numerous errors that virtually
>> prohibited from it from installing.
>>
>> recently, I reviewed the virtual
>> box forum, and it seems that
>> at least one other person was
>> also having issues.
>>
>> however, before making the
>> attempt of installing winxp
>> via virtual box, I did tap into
>> the winxp virtual harddisk.vd
>> with virtual box.
>>
>> but I began getting the message
>> that windows needed to be
>> reactivated in 3 days and
>> basically I couldn't proceed
>> by skipping the activation.
>>
>> have you installed winxp in
>> virtual box?
>>
>>
>>
>> "C.Joseph Drayton" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:493d9dc9$0$90274$(email address - cut out)...
>> > db `.. .><)))>. wrote:
>> >> I was somewhat disappointed to
>> >> learn that virtualpc didn't have
>> >> many device options available
>> >> after I installed winxp.
>> >>
>> >> however, after installing and
>> >> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>> >> this program provides an array
>> >> of available devices, like usb.
>> >>
>> >> is there any reason why winxp
>> >> should not function better in
>> >> virtualbox then being limited
>> >> by the features of virtualpc?
>> >>
>> >> -----------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> incidentally, I also discovered
>> >> that virtual box could tap into
>> >> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>> >>
>> >> but in doing so, windows came
>> >> back with a message that it
>> >> recovered from a registry error
>> >> and due to the new hardware
>> >> change, winxp wanted to be
>> >> reactivated.
>> >>
>> >> I guess all the extras provided
>> >> by virtual box increased the
>> >> hardware id that windows had
>> >> while in virtual pc.
>> >>
>> >> fortunately, I had a backup copy
>> >> of the vhd file and used it to
>> >> restore the previously activated
>> >> winxp in virtual pc.
>> >>
>> >> ---------------------
>> >>
>> >> but now I wonder if I would be
>> >> wasting my time and resources
>> >> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>> >> for winxp when it seems that
>> >> virtualbox is more advanced.
>> >>
>> >> any suggestions as to how
>> >> I might get winxp into virtualbox
>> >> without reinstalling and or reactivating?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Since I do a lot of software development the need for VMs and VM
>> > appliances are a fact of life. My first experience with VMs was Linux -
>> > Debian on VMPlayer. Then I tried VirtualPC, then lastly I tried
>> > VirtualBox.
>> >
>> > Like most things, there is no perfect tool. I actually have all three
>> > on
>> > my computer and use each where they seem to do the most good. I run
>> > FreeDOS, MSDOS and Windows up to Windows2000pe under VirtualPC. The
>> > Linux
>> > distros (except for Ubuntu 8.04 which I run under VirtualPC) I run
>> > under
>> > VMPlayer. I have WindowsXPpe[sp3] for all 3, but I do a lot of the
>> > developing inside of VirtualBox. I have had a need lately for being
>> > able
>> > to do USB access for a few applications I am working on, which of
>> > course
>> > leaves out VirtualPC. I have heard a number of good things about
>> > VMPlayer
>> > and USB, but since Sun took over development of VirtualBox, I have
>> > found
>> > that it best meets my needs for USB support. But as I said, each of the
>> > VM
>> > managers has there strong-points. If you want to build straight
>> > appliances, I do still like VMWare the best.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T
>> >
>> > CSD Computer Services
>> >
>> > Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/
>> > E-mail: (email address - cut out)
>> >

> I was somewhat disappointed to
> learn that virtualpc didn't have
> many device options available
> after I installed winxp.
>
> however, after installing and
> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
> this program provides an array
> of available devices, like usb.
>
> is there any reason why winxp
> should not function better in
> virtualbox then being limited
> by the features of virtualpc?
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> incidentally, I also discovered
> that virtual box could tap into
> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>
> but in doing so, windows came
> back with a message that it
> recovered from a registry error
> and due to the new hardware
> change, winxp wanted to be
> reactivated.
>
> I guess all the extras provided
> by virtual box increased the
> hardware id that windows had
> while in virtual pc.
>
> fortunately, I had a backup copy
> of the vhd file and used it to
> restore the previously activated
> winxp in virtual pc.
>
> ---------------------
>
> but now I wonder if I would be
> wasting my time and resources
> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
> for winxp when it seems that
> virtualbox is more advanced.
>
> any suggestions as to how
> I might get winxp into virtualbox
> without reinstalling and or reactivating?
>

> thanks for the helpful info.
>=20
> it does seem to me that
> usb is a vital device these
> days and one wonders why
> vpc lacks it - deliberately.
>=20
> although I think the windows
> runs excellent in vpc, I am
> contemplating of running
> winxp in virtual box instead.
>=20
> I did try to install winxp directly
> via virtual box, but I received
> numerous errors that virtually
> prohibited from it from installing.
>=20
> recently, I reviewed the virtual
> box forum, and it seems that
> at least one other person was
> also having issues.
>=20
> however, before making the
> attempt of installing winxp
> via virtual box, I did tap into
> the winxp virtual harddisk.vd
> with virtual box.
>=20
> but I began getting the message
> that windows needed to be
> reactivated in 3 days and
> basically I couldn't proceed
> by skipping the activation.
>=20
> have you installed winxp in
> virtual box?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> "C.Joseph Drayton" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message=20
> news:493d9dc9$0$90274$(email address - cut out)...
>> db =B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8. .><)))=BA>. wrote:
>>> I was somewhat disappointed to
>>> learn that virtualpc didn't have
>>> many device options available
>>> after I installed winxp.
>>>
>>> however, after installing and
>>> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>>> this program provides an array
>>> of available devices, like usb.
>>>
>>> is there any reason why winxp
>>> should not function better in
>>> virtualbox then being limited
>>> by the features of virtualpc?
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------
>>>
>>> incidentally, I also discovered
>>> that virtual box could tap into
>>> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>>>
>>> but in doing so, windows came
>>> back with a message that it
>>> recovered from a registry error
>>> and due to the new hardware
>>> change, winxp wanted to be
>>> reactivated.
>>>
>>> I guess all the extras provided
>>> by virtual box increased the
>>> hardware id that windows had
>>> while in virtual pc.
>>>
>>> fortunately, I had a backup copy
>>> of the vhd file and used it to
>>> restore the previously activated
>>> winxp in virtual pc.
>>>
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> but now I wonder if I would be
>>> wasting my time and resources
>>> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>>> for winxp when it seems that
>>> virtualbox is more advanced.
>>>
>>> any suggestions as to how
>>> I might get winxp into virtualbox
>>> without reinstalling and or reactivating?
>>>
>> Since I do a lot of software development the need for VMs and VM=20
>> appliances are a fact of life. My first experience with VMs was Linux =
>> Debian on VMPlayer. Then I tried VirtualPC, then lastly I tried=20
>> VirtualBox.
>>
>> Like most things, there is no perfect tool. I actually have all three =
>> my computer and use each where they seem to do the most good. I run=20
>> FreeDOS, MSDOS and Windows up to Windows2000pe under VirtualPC. The Li=
>> distros (except for Ubuntu 8.04 which I run under VirtualPC) I run und=
>> VMPlayer. I have WindowsXPpe[sp3] for all 3, but I do a lot of the=20
>> developing inside of VirtualBox. I have had a need lately for being ab=
>> to do USB access for a few applications I am working on, which of cour=
>> leaves out VirtualPC. I have heard a number of good things about VMPla=
>> and USB, but since Sun took over development of VirtualBox, I have fou=
>> that it best meets my needs for USB support. But as I said, each of th=
>> managers has there strong-points. If you want to build straight=20
>> appliances, I do still like VMWare the best.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T
>>
>> CSD Computer Services
>>
>> Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/
>> E-mail: (email address - cut out)
>>

> thanks for the helpful info.
>
> it does seem to me that
> usb is a vital device these
> days and one wonders why
> vpc lacks it - deliberately.
>
> although I think the windows
> runs excellent in vpc, I am
> contemplating of running
> winxp in virtual box instead.
>
> I did try to install winxp directly
> via virtual box, but I received
> numerous errors that virtually
> prohibited from it from installing.
>
> recently, I reviewed the virtual
> box forum, and it seems that
> at least one other person was
> also having issues.
>
> however, before making the
> attempt of installing winxp
> via virtual box, I did tap into
> the winxp virtual harddisk.vd
> with virtual box.
>
> but I began getting the message
> that windows needed to be
> reactivated in 3 days and
> basically I couldn't proceed
> by skipping the activation.
>
> have you installed winxp in
> virtual box?
>
>
>
> "C.Joseph Drayton" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message news:493d9dc9$0$90274$(email address - cut out)...
>> db ·´¯`·.¸. .><)))º>. wrote:
>>> I was somewhat disappointed to
>>> learn that virtualpc didn't have
>>> many device options available
>>> after I installed winxp.
>>>
>>> however, after installing and
>>> reviewing virtualbox, it appears
>>> this program provides an array
>>> of available devices, like usb.
>>>
>>> is there any reason why winxp
>>> should not function better in
>>> virtualbox then being limited
>>> by the features of virtualpc?
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------
>>>
>>> incidentally, I also discovered
>>> that virtual box could tap into
>>> the vhd file made by virtualpc.
>>>
>>> but in doing so, windows came
>>> back with a message that it
>>> recovered from a registry error
>>> and due to the new hardware
>>> change, winxp wanted to be
>>> reactivated.
>>>
>>> I guess all the extras provided
>>> by virtual box increased the
>>> hardware id that windows had
>>> while in virtual pc.
>>>
>>> fortunately, I had a backup copy
>>> of the vhd file and used it to
>>> restore the previously activated
>>> winxp in virtual pc.
>>>
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> but now I wonder if I would be
>>> wasting my time and resources
>>> utilizing the limitating virtualpc
>>> for winxp when it seems that
>>> virtualbox is more advanced.
>>>
>>> any suggestions as to how
>>> I might get winxp into virtualbox
>>> without reinstalling and or reactivating?
>>>
>> Since I do a lot of software development the need for VMs and VM appliances are a fact of life. My first experience with VMs was
>> Linux - Debian on VMPlayer. Then I tried VirtualPC, then lastly I tried VirtualBox.
>>
>> Like most things, there is no perfect tool. I actually have all three on my computer and use each where they seem to do the most
>> good. I run FreeDOS, MSDOS and Windows up to Windows2000pe under VirtualPC. The Linux distros (except for Ubuntu 8.04 which I run
>> under VirtualPC) I run under VMPlayer. I have WindowsXPpe[sp3] for all 3, but I do a lot of the developing inside of VirtualBox.
>> I have had a need lately for being able to do USB access for a few applications I am working on, which of course leaves out
>> VirtualPC. I have heard a number of good things about VMPlayer and USB, but since Sun took over development of VirtualBox, I have
>> found that it best meets my needs for USB support. But as I said, each of the VM managers has there strong-points. If you want to
>> build straight appliances, I do still like VMWare the best.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T
>>
>> CSD Computer Services
>>
>> Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/
>> E-mail: (email address - cut out)
>>

> ok, thanks that is
> interesting.
>=20
> i think that you technique
> with wpa is an excellent
> one, but i have never
> heard of it.
>=20
> i look forward to researching
> your methodology.
>=20
> unfortunately, i used up all
> my auto activations and it
> has been a struggle with
> communicating on the phone
> with reps from india.
>=20

> ok, thanks that is
> interesting.
>
> i think that you technique
> with wpa is an excellent
> one, but i have never
> heard of it.
>
> i look forward to researching
> your methodology.
>
> unfortunately, i used up all
> my auto activations and it
> has been a struggle with
> communicating on the phone
> with reps from india.
>