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hardware virtualization

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 10/18/2008
From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
Message:

Why hardware virtualization is disabled on my VPC?
I have very modern computer, Pentium 3.6 GHz Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB
hardrive and NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT video card.
What prevents VPC from using hardware virtualization ?
Your comments please,
Jack

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Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/18/2008
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:34:39 -0400, "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:

CPU doesn't support it, BIOS doesn't support it, HW is disabled in
BIOS.
There could be a number of things.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/

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>Why hardware virtualization is disabled on my VPC?
>I have very modern computer, Pentium 3.6 GHz Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB
>hardrive and NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT video card.
>What prevents VPC from using hardware virtualization ?
>Your comments please,
>Jack
>

Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/18/2008
From: "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Dan" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

That is not correct. My CPU Pentium IV 3.8GhZ supports it. My bios does not.
That's idiot Dell for you. I was assured before I got this machine that it
would be supported and it is on the CPU but not in the bios. I have the
latest bios.

Hardware virtualization support you need to ask the vendor specifically
before purchase and then check it immediately when you get the machine so
you can return the machine if it isn't there. It is true that it may just be
turned off in the bios but it may not be in the bios at all. Dell bios are
bare bones.

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> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Why hardware virtualization is disabled on my VPC?
>> I have very modern computer, Pentium 3.6 GHz Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB
>> hardrive and NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT video card.
>> What prevents VPC from using hardware virtualization ?
>
> Assuming this CPU supports it (I thought you needed a Core 2 or higher
> CPU?), there will be a BIOS option to enable it. This option is not
> always enabled by default.

Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/18/2008
From: "Dan" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Assuming this CPU supports it (I thought you needed a Core 2 or higher
CPU?), there will be a BIOS option to enable it. This option is not always
enabled by default.

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> Why hardware virtualization is disabled on my VPC?
> I have very modern computer, Pentium 3.6 GHz Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB
> hardrive and NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT video card.
> What prevents VPC from using hardware virtualization ?

Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/18/2008
From: "Dan" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Melelina" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Ah, OK. That's why I put a ? in there - I was not sure.

I have several machines with Core 2 Duo (or Core 2 Quad) CPUs. All had the
hardware virtualization off in the BIOS. I had to enable it myself. My
point above was to make sure it is enabled in the BIOS, although as you
point out, it may not even be a BIOS option! Ouch!

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>
> "Dan" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> Why hardware virtualization is disabled on my VPC?
>>> I have very modern computer, Pentium 3.6 GHz Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB
>>> hardrive and NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT video card.
>>> What prevents VPC from using hardware virtualization ?
>>
>> Assuming this CPU supports it (I thought you needed a Core 2 or higher
>> CPU?), there will be a BIOS option to enable it. This option is not
>> always enabled by default.
>
> That is not correct. My CPU Pentium IV 3.8GhZ supports it. My bios does
> not. That's idiot Dell for you. I was assured before I got this machine
> that it would be supported and it is on the CPU but not in the bios. I
> have the latest bios.

Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/18/2008
From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
Message:

OK. Thank you for the suggestions.
I have found setting in BIOS and now my VPC has enabled Hardware
Virtualization.
However, there is another problem.
My guest is Vista.
When I start Freecell game in it it starts with the following message:
"
Hardware acceleration is either disabled or not supported by your video card
driver.....
"
Is that normal for VPC ?
Jack

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

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> Why hardware virtualization is disabled on my VPC?
> I have very modern computer, Pentium 3.6 GHz Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB
> hardrive and NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT video card.
> What prevents VPC from using hardware virtualization ?
> Your comments please,
> Jack
>

Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/19/2008
From: Anonymous Remailer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

In article <(email address - cut out)>
"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote:

Yes.

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>
> OK. Thank you for the suggestions.
> I have found setting in BIOS and now my VPC has enabled Hardware
> Virtualization.
> However, there is another problem.
> My guest is Vista.
> When I start Freecell game in it it starts with the following message:
> "
> Hardware acceleration is either disabled or not supported by your video card
> driver.....
> "
> Is that normal for VPC ?
> Jack

Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/19/2008
From: "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Dan" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

I'm going to look in the bios again but I have looked several times and see
nothing and as I said Dell bios are simple. It would be kind of hard to miss
it. Plus, Steve Gibson's proggie says I don't have it.

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> "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>
>> "Dan" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> Why hardware virtualization is disabled on my VPC?
>>>> I have very modern computer, Pentium 3.6 GHz Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB
>>>> hardrive and NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT video card.
>>>> What prevents VPC from using hardware virtualization ?
>>>
>>> Assuming this CPU supports it (I thought you needed a Core 2 or higher
>>> CPU?), there will be a BIOS option to enable it. This option is not
>>> always enabled by default.
>>
>> That is not correct. My CPU Pentium IV 3.8GhZ supports it. My bios does
>> not. That's idiot Dell for you. I was assured before I got this machine
>> that it would be supported and it is on the CPU but not in the bios. I
>> have the latest bios.
>
> Ah, OK. That's why I put a ? in there - I was not sure.
>
> I have several machines with Core 2 Duo (or Core 2 Quad) CPUs. All had
> the hardware virtualization off in the BIOS. I had to enable it myself.
> My point above was to make sure it is enabled in the BIOS, although as you
> point out, it may not even be a BIOS option! Ouch!

Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/20/2008
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:08:36 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:

Are you sure your CPU supports it? The P4 3.8GHz should be model
670...there's no mention of hardware virtualization (intel VT) on
Intel's info page for that processor:
http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=867280&familyID=1&culture=en-US

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/

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>
>"Dan" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>
>>> "Dan" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
>>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> Why hardware virtualization is disabled on my VPC?
>>>>> I have very modern computer, Pentium 3.6 GHz Dual Core, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB
>>>>> hardrive and NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT video card.
>>>>> What prevents VPC from using hardware virtualization ?
>>>>
>>>> Assuming this CPU supports it (I thought you needed a Core 2 or higher
>>>> CPU?), there will be a BIOS option to enable it. This option is not
>>>> always enabled by default.
>>>
>>> That is not correct. My CPU Pentium IV 3.8GhZ supports it. My bios does
>>> not. That's idiot Dell for you. I was assured before I got this machine
>>> that it would be supported and it is on the CPU but not in the bios. I
>>> have the latest bios.
>>
>> Ah, OK. That's why I put a ? in there - I was not sure.
>>
>> I have several machines with Core 2 Duo (or Core 2 Quad) CPUs. All had
>> the hardware virtualization off in the BIOS. I had to enable it myself.
>> My point above was to make sure it is enabled in the BIOS, although as you
>> point out, it may not even be a BIOS option! Ouch!
>
>I'm going to look in the bios again but I have looked several times and see
>nothing and as I said Dell bios are simple. It would be kind of hard to miss
>it. Plus, Steve Gibson's proggie says I don't have it.

Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/20/2008
From: "Dan" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Melelina" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

I don't know what program you are talking about above. The fact that VPC
says it is not available is all you need to know.

But your CPU has to support it, AND it has to be installed in a motherboard
with a chipset that supports it AND it has to be enabled in the BIOS. If
one of these is not correct, then VPC isn't going to use it.

As I said, all of my machines that support it (4) had it off by default in
the BIOS. I had to enable it in all 4. When enabled, the machine shuts
itself down and reboots. Changing this option requires a hard reset to
change the CPU state. When rebooted, VPC then said it was available.

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> I'm going to look in the bios again but I have looked several times and
> see nothing and as I said Dell bios are simple. It would be kind of hard
> to miss it. Plus, Steve Gibson's proggie says I don't have it.

Re: hardware virtualization

Sent: 10/20/2008
From: "Jane C" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

"Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

It might be the model 672 which does (also 3.8GHz).

--
Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

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> On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:08:36 -1000, "Melelina" <(email address - cut out)>
>
>
> Are you sure your CPU supports it? The P4 3.8GHz should be model
> 670...there's no mention of hardware virtualization (intel VT) on
> Intel's info page for that processor:
> http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=867280&familyID=1&culture=en-US
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/

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